Fake 52Topps mantle on Ebay

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by asw37

that slab is not shattered, it is creasing in the back of the card, there is no crack in the slab.

I was actually referring to the front view, but now that I look at the back more closely, I see what you mean about the creasing.

I still stand by the rest of my statement though. You're not doing yourself any favors by taking a combative stance rather than helping assuage bidders' doubts.

[asw37]

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[whitehse]

The circus hasn't come out as you mentioned. This is a message board where people talk about *gasp* sports cards and your item happens to fit that criteria. You are doing yourself no favors by not showing that card out of the frame as others have mentioned. Do what you want...we are just offering opinions.

Now I need to get back to my clown car and get ready for the next showing of the Net54 Circus.

[Texxxx]

I agree with most here. Take it out and make some scans. It want destroy the frame to take it out. It needs a new mat on the back anyway because of the creases.

[asw37]

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[Texxxx]

Well scratch me off your list of possible buyers!

See how it works?

[Sean1125]

I still think the card is authentic based on what I can see in the photographs... It would be great if you could post the auction house... I don't know if you are concerned about us seeing the price you pay but I don't think any of us care or it really matters - you can ask what you want - but posting the auction house would add to any credibility the card may have.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

I still think the card is authentic based on what I can see in the photographs... It would be great if you could post the auction house... I don't know if you are concerned about us seeing the price you pay but I don't think any of us care or it really matters - you can ask what you want - but posting the auction house would add to any credibility the card may have.

By doing that, it gives away how much he paid for the card he is trying to sell....That definitely matters when you are trying to sell something for a profit. When you see someone got a good deal on it you will base your bidding according to that.

That is the point of researching a price right? or am i missing something here? There have been many cards I would 1k for but know the seller only paid 200 for it...that is a huge negotiating advantage.

Kevin

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by asw37

If he or you wants to pay for the reframe, I will gladly take it out

Forgive my ignorance, but the frames I'm familiar with allow for the contents of the frame to be removed (with time + care + patience) without destroying the frame.

[whitehse]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Forgive my ignorance, but the frames I'm familiar with allow for the contents of the frame to be removed (with time + care + patience) without destroying the frame.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument against good customer service and selling a high dollar item!!

[nsaddict]

Sorry, the card is fake in my opinion. The borders are narrow all the way around, check others on ebay and you will see the difference. You should send it to PSA to take a look at it but doubt you would. Did you buy this on craigslist? Please list the auction house with date and lot number.

[Eric72]

Andrew,

I don't have enough experience with the 1952 Topps Mantle to weigh in on its authenticity. Having said this, I will offer you an opinion regarding eBay, where I have sold numerous things across the span of 10+ years.

If it was my item (and it's not - this is just an opinion) I would consider ending the auction and re-listing it with the correct card number in the title.

I would also then be prepared to answer any and all questions that came down the pike from prospective bidders...whether they present their question directly through eBay or on a forum such as this.

Additionally, I would treat all such queries seriously, and put my best customer service foot forward. After all, we are discussing a sale in the thousands of dollars. This may not be a big deal to some; however, it would be a high priority endeavor for me.

Please forgive me if this rubs you the wrong way. I truly am just trying to add value to the conversation here.

Best Regards,

Eric

[xcgrammer]

Andrew my apologies. Believe me I know typo's can happen. Was in poor taste. I actually believe the card to be real as well. Just seems like an odd thing to frame. But to each his own.

[ATP]

For reference sake, here is a similar piece that sold on eBay, framed in the same manner.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...p2047675.l2557

Interestingly enough the Mantle sig is not good on it in my opinion. The color of the Mantle card and creasing is very similar to the OP's. Unless the camera flash is doing something odd, the creasing does not appear right on either, it's just too white at the breaks especially on the reverse.

[ATP]

And here is the OP's from a couple months back, from a seller with 4 feedback.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantl...p2047675.l2557

Look at the creasing evident in the photos from this listing, it is not natural in any way in my opinion.