How Rare Is This 1909 San Francisco Seals Postcard?

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by bcookie

how rare is this card? i picked this one up to resale, the seller stated it is a 1 of 4 known.. is this true?

Hi,

Didn't you recently post on here that you needed money because your wife broke her wrist and out of work for 6 weeks?? I know we made a deal a few weeks back and all went well, but this sounds odd

[bcookie]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

Hi,

Didn't you recently post on here that you needed money because your wife broke her wrist and out of work for 6 weeks?? I know we made a deal a few weeks back and all went well, but this sounds odd

not odd at all.. if i can make a few hundred on this in a week or 2 at the most.. as stated above i bought it to resale.

my wife is currently not working.. i work full time and flip cards on the side for extra income..

[Bicem]

Definitely more than 4 known, quite a few have popped up in the last couple years. Still a tough and cool pc though.

[packs]

There was another one of these on eBay not too long ago that was postally used. Seems to be more than 4 known.

[prewarsports]

There was another on ebay 3 weeks ago (not postally used) that was poorly described and it went for less than 1000. I have seen more than 4 on ebay in the last 5-6 years. My guess would be 10-15 are probably circulating in the hobby and probably a few more in private collections etc. Still rare and desirable, but absolutely more common than 4 in the World.

Rhys

[bcookie]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

There was another on ebay 3 weeks ago (not postally used) that was poorly described and it went for less than 1000. I have seen more than 4 on ebay in the last 5-6 years. My guess would be 10-15 are probably circulating in the hobby and probably a few more in private collections etc. Still rare and desirable, but absolutely more common than 4 in the World.

Rhys

would you have it graded by SGC? do you think the extra $40 investment would pay off?

[scooter729]

Just my .02 but if you're planning on doing flipping for extra income while at a time when your wife is home injured, you might want to research some of these items a bit more ahead of time instead of after your purchase.

As for your question with SGC, I would say it's not worth authenticating it in its condition. I don't think there is any question as to its authenticity. Were it in nicer shape, I'd say to go through SGC to get a high number grade on it. But with the staining and creases, it'll have a low technical grade, and the SGC slab won't add much value at that point. Just my opinion.

[Matthew H]

I wouldn't grade anything PCL. Unless it's something that crosses over to other collectors, like a HOFer. Even then, I personally wouldn't. It's a waste of money as most PCL guys like stuff raw.

[Yankeefan51]

This is a rare post card, indeed. Including post card collectors and PCL collectorsthere are at least six known copies. I purchased my copy (SGC Graded 40) in a private transaction. Two months later a similar (but not graded card) was sold by REA. Since that time, including the card mentioned in this post, I have seen two additional examples.

I would urge the owner to have the post card graded. If grades it 70 or above, it should bring at least $2,500.

By the way, if you have further interest, look at a copy of the PCL memorabilia program which cataloged a wealth of the PCL material the San Francisco airport.

To ensure the best price, I would suggest auctioning the item in REA's Fall 2013 auction. If you do so, REA will have it graded. Very few of the remaining important auction houses truly understand the rarity, value and market for baseball postcards The other knowledgeable sources are Lew Lipset (no longer in baseball auctions) are Doug Allen andRon Oser


Good luck

Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List

bdorskind@dorskindgroup.com

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by bcookie

not odd at all.. if i can make a few hundred on this in a week or 2 at the most.. as stated above i bought it to resale.

my wife is currently not working.. i work full time and flip cards on the side for extra income..

Just curious on how you think it will only take a week or 2? Unless you are contacted by someone on here wanting it, it's gonna take more than a few weeks to see a profit, but good luck, u may hit small jackpot down the road!

[bcookie]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Just curious on how you think it will only take a week or 2? Unless you are contacted by someone on here wanting it, it's gonna take more than a few weeks to see a profit, but good luck, u may hit small jackpot down the road!

Of course i would not mind selling it here.. but i planned on putting it back on ebay with a BIN/OBO. Also, a better title on the auction.

[bcookie]

i was looking at the above 2 auctions.. i do not see the connection. the buyer of the one that ended on 06/05 is not the seller of the one from 06/26 (the feedback number does not match)

[rhettyeakley]

Look at the staining in the back of the card, no two stains are exactly alike (almost like a fingerprint)--thus these are the same card. When I saw it on eBay the second time with that bluish tint back I figured it was a fake intended to deceive, it looks like it was just a really terrible scan so that is good for you, as the real ones should have a black print back- like nearly all other RPPC's.

[bcookie]

i checked. the printing on the back of this card is black.. it was just a bad scan

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by bcookie

i was looking at the above 2 auctions.. i do not see the connection. the buyer of the one that ended on 06/05 is not the seller of the one from 06/26 (the feedback number does not match)

It's the same person, notice the "DJ" in both names, he's a flipper too, and does quite well at it.

[dstudeba]

I agree with Jason, there have been a number of these, definitely not only four. If I had thought it would sell for 1400-1700 I would have bid more both times it was auctioned.