Net54baseball id "Sportscollector"

mullinsm · #1 05-30-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

the verdict is in...my ruth was graded A for added color...paypal was kind enough to grant me 1 exception to their rule and file a claim for the full amount minus the grading fee I presume?!?!

If our friend, Den Prak, or whomever is at the receiving end of the paypal account does not respond in 10 days...paypal will pay me the full amount. If he does respond...who knows what may happen?!?!

Just curious...if PayPal refunds your money, do you get to keep the card? It's still an authentic Ruth, after all.

Regardless, good luck! Sounds like it is going to work out for you.

deadballfreaK · #2 05-30-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mullinsm

Just curious...if PayPal refunds your money, do you get to keep the card? It's still an authentic Ruth, after all.

Regardless, good luck! Sounds like it is going to work out for you.

Get the refund and keep the card! Offer it to the DA as evidence or keep it! F that crook. What's he gonna do, sue?

ullmandds · #3 05-30-2013, 04:57 PM

thanks sean...

Peter_Spaeth · #4 05-30-2013, 05:14 PM

"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."

How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?

Leon · #5 05-30-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."

How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?

Except that one....but I am not positive he even knew the card was bad when he sold it, not that it matters. But you are correct. Where I was going with this is that I don't think he had scammed on the board yet..(this altered card withstanding)

Peter_Spaeth · #6 05-30-2013, 05:21 PM

Is this related, also involved scam out of San Diego?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=san+diego

ergoism · #7 05-30-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is this related, also involved scam out of San Diego?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=san+diego

Yes, that's him.

The scammer in this thread is one of the biggest the hobby has ever seen. I gathered much more information about him after two failed scams against me over a year apart. I was the one that had a $40,000 deal in the works, figured it out, and alerted Leon. I've connected him to multiple alts on CU, net54, and blowoutcards. He has been doing this for many years and is now perfectly replicating PSA slabs as well. It's believed that he is operating out of Mexico and will be very hard to stop. He was the ring leader of the Cyrus Stivers case and Stivers never even met him nor knew who he was. He does everything from out of the country and uses other people as pawns, some of them don't even know they're selling fraudulent or stolen cards.
His best scam is putting authentic, trimmed/altered/lower grade cards into fake PSA slabs. These things look scary legit.
If you have ever dealt with this person, it's highly likely what you received was either stolen or counterfeit.
I've connected him to the following scams:

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/f...fool-me-1.html

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=92552

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...99-robbed.html

All of the following are likely banned or inactive now but here's some of his various alts (I'll update this list as I learn more):
net54 = sportscollector, sam1952
blowoutcards = supercollector2012, expertcollector
CU = Will update this soon.

eBay ids: reedca76, moderncollector2012, encapsulated_icons, top_shelf_cards, highest-grade

Paul S · #8 05-30-2013, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

"Edited to add...I received 3-5 emails and PMs from board members that did good deals with this person. I didn't receive any emails or PMs of bad deals. The scammer even kept saying that all of his deals on the board were good, and he was correct."

How was he correct if he sold Peter a recolored Ruth?

Re coloring: Doesn't sound like he would know if his Ruth was tainted, anyway. Just my 2cents, but if i read Leon correctly, he was surf fishing before he goes deep sea for a marlin, ergo the 40k deal that was nixed at the 11th hour.

glchen · #9 05-30-2013, 05:36 PM

Also note that the SK Ty Cobb that this guy was complaining about PSA grading on (Link) also came back as Altered, so it's possible it may have been recolored also. Also sold to a boardmember, but it looks like he accepted a return.

auggiedoggy · #10 05-30-2013, 05:56 PM

I didn't know what I was getting myself into when I joined this forum! We have interesting topics, baseball expertise, how to spot fake cards, drama & suspense and now crime busting!

What's next and should I go out and buy some popcorn?

p.s. Well done Leon, btw!

cobblove · #11 05-30-2013, 05:16 PM

Thanks leon.
I was trying to just ask a question and thanks for the reply. I wasnt sure exactly what was going on and my questions were only questions and not facts.

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