e107 vs t206

[shammus]

Hey Tony! Hope you are well....

I had 6 of the 8 cards, although I was able to acquire a 7th, Tenney, at a later date. Still have that one actually.

I'd say the toughest would be Seybold. I've never been able to confirm that a Type 2 Seybold even exists. All the others I've seen anywhere from 2 to 5 examples of including Tenney and Waddell, which was the most recent addition to the Type 2 checklist a few years ago. The Delehanty was far and away the most expensive but not the toughest. Each time I've seen a Type 2 Delehanty up for auction it goes between 12-15k. Lajoie is the Type 2 I've seen the most of to date.

I won Chris Sullivan's Type 2 Keeler a few weeks back from Legendary. First time in years that I think I've owned an e107 HOFer...

[sb1]

I never had a Seybold either, I only had 5 different back when I accumulated them.

[shammus]

I went as far as to touch base with a few of the longtime collectors not on Net 54 to see if they had a Seybold or could confirm it's existance. In some cases, I had to have a buddy of mine from here contact someone they knew to tell me "yes" or "no". Funny enough, I was able to contact Keith Olbermann once, through a good hobby friend of mine who knew Keith and was kind enough to be willing to reach out to him on my behalf. Turns out, he didn't have one either...heh!

[e107collector]

If you or Scott can't confirm one, and Chris Sullivan didn't obtain one, maybe the Seybold doesn't exist?

Tony

[sb1]

Most of the E107 collectors in the early days did not care, The type 2 just filled a hole.. for example Chris only had 1-2 overprint backs, I had 39, he didn't chase them and I just happened to find a few groups with a lot of them. My Type 2 Delehanty and Keeler were both part of a guys E107 set, he could have cared less about the thick gray stock.

Which brings us to the what are they part of the story, which I will save my thoughts for another thread.

[e107collector]

Scott,

On your Type 2 Delehanty, I'm pretty sure it has the "overprint" back, correct? Is the back blank, or does it also have the 1 of 150 text as well, along with the overprint?

It seems like some of your Type 2's can be classified as a type 3.

Tony

[shammus]

Well, truth be told, I think a case could already be made for a "Type 3". Has nothing to do with the overprints really, but I firmly believe that certain Type 2s are made of a completely different material. Many are the thicker, greyish toned cardboard stock that we're used to seeing. Gives me the impression they were cut off a box lid or something like that. But I had a Delehanty and one other Type 2 which was white and smooth as a cueball on the back and was a thinner stock, as though it came off of an advertising poster of some sort where maybe a nicer paper/cardboard material was used.

[sb1]

The Delehanty does have the overprint and is on the heavy gray stock. I think the gray stocked ones probably came off some type of packaging that the product came in. If Brian has thin ones with the Type 2 fonts they may be ad pieces. Further I think there were different issuers/users of the cards. Some of the blank backs have different text layouts at the bottom, versus series of 150 backs and may have actually been printed in 1903 or 1904( I would have to check team changes to confirm the year). And it's possible ALL of the overprints were redemptions and stamped at the same time. They all run they same direction and many have wet print transfer from the back stamp to the fronts as they were stacked.

There are so few cards and so many differences, many possibilities exist.