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Old 05-07-2013, 10:34 PM
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:47 PM
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I would assume BVG is reasonable. Beckett is if anything more popular and gets higher prices than PSA with modern/recent/insert cards, but doesn't have the same following with vintage. Also, it's a lower grade card. It's not if it's a Nrmt-Mt example.

I think it's a nice looking card. Though, in the grand scheme of things, it amazes me how expensive is the 52T Mantle.

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Old 05-08-2013, 08:41 AM
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52 is not his rookie just the first Topps produced card of him. 51 bowman is much nicer IMO, cheaper, and his actual rookie. Still nice iconic image on the 52 though. Best of luck on one. Go for a SGC slab as the make the image enhanced with that nice black matte boarder.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:00 AM
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Personally I truly like BVG and yes that Mantle is well priced and is also nice for the grade. You would be lucky to find another one that nice for the grade...I say buy it!!! But do not over bid wait to the last minute to place a bid even better the last 20 seconds.

I also own a 52 Topps graded PSA 4 (looks more like a 5)....like I said when a nice one pops up at a reasonable price buy it!!!

To give you a idea I paid 12 950$ for a PSA 4 (again it looks like a 5) so a BVG in 3.5 at less than 10 000$ is a good buy....plus it looks pretty well centered as well.

If you live outside the U.S have it shipped to you using FeDex priority worldwide you will get it the very next day and is the MOST safe method for such a card. I would NEVER use UPS or USPS for this card.

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Old 05-08-2013, 09:16 AM
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Personally I truly like BVG and yes that Mantle is well priced and is also nice for the grade. You would be lucky to find another one that nice for the grade...I say buy it!!! But do not over bid wait to the last minute to place a bid even better the last 20 seconds.

I also own a 52 Topps graded PSA 4 (looks more like a 5)....like I said when a nice one pops up at a reasonable price buy it!!!

To give you a idea I paid 12 950$ for a PSA 4 (again it looks like a 5) so a BVG in 3.5 at less than 10 000$ is a good buy....plus it looks pretty well centered as well.

If you live outside the U.S have it shipped to you using FeDex priority worldwide you will get it the very next day and is the MOST safe method for such a card. I would NEVER use UPS or USPS for this card.
So you ended up buying the '52 Topps Mantle? I thought you had decided to buy the N302 Dunlop instead.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:19 AM
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I made a last minute change and upped for the 52 Mantle....did not want to say it here since you guys already think am I kind of crazy.

The Dunlop is a great card but that specific one had sold for a little over 6200$ a few months ago (probably a real good deal for the buyer)...I was not going to spend 12 500$ on it (yes it is probably worth over 10 000$ but not to me). I told the seller....same guy that sold me the 52 Topps Mantle.

Buy a card over 10 000$ and you will see your mind will play games on you as well....it is a lot of money....you have to make the right buy....EVEN if that means changing your mind a few times. I would have NOT have done so if it was 2 separate sellers.

In the end it made me realize I am going to stick with baseball cards no matter what now and in the future.

If I had not got the 52 Topps Mantle I would have not been happy in the end...and I am very very happy with the Mantle. I will always cherish the Mantle as part of my collection I would have not had the same felling for the Dunlop after a few months maybe (Probably) less.

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Old 05-08-2013, 09:38 AM
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I would wait a bit. It's well centered, but I think you could do better for $10,000. I'm sure a nice one will show up soon enough.

T205 makes a valid point, Mick's 51 Bowman card can be had at a bargain compared to the 52 Topps. Personally I would consider both to be "rookie" cards, but as previously mentioned, the 1952 Topps image is an iconic piece of baseball history.

However, if you choose 51 over 52 I suggest the 1951 Wheaties Premium photo.. It's a much nicer pic of Mantle than the 51 Bowman IMO.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:44 AM
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$9600 for the BVG 3.5 is not a great deal. It's not an outrageous price either, to be sure, but again it's not a bargain. For reference, a PSA 3.5 with admittedly far less eye appeal sold for around $8300, if memory serves me right. Patience is key with a card like this, which does surface. Cards that hit market very infrequently, in those cases a quick trigger and paying a premium are very understandable.

Most readily available examples of the #311 do have serious eye appeal issues such as surface loss or poor centering, thus when one with eye appeal does pop up, it can be tempting to pay a premium-- but in this case, IMO, the premium is just a tad too significant. You are in PSA 4 territory at 10K.

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Old 05-08-2013, 11:14 AM
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I made a last minute change and upped for the 52 Mantle....did not want to say it here since you guys already think am I kind of crazy.

The Dunlop is a great card but that specific one had sold for a little over 6200$ a few months ago (probably a real good deal for the buyer)...I was not going to spend 12 500$ on it (yes it is probably worth over 10 000$ but not to me). I told the seller....same guy that sold me the 52 Topps Mantle.

Buy a card over 10 000$ and you will see your mind will play games on you as well....it is a lot of money....you have to make the right buy....EVEN if that means changing your mind a few times. I would have NOT have done so if it was 2 separate sellers.

In the end it made me realize I am going to stick with baseball cards no matter what now and in the future.

If I had not got the 52 Topps Mantle I would have not been happy in the end...and I am very very happy with the Mantle. I will always cherish the Mantle as part of my collection I would have not had the same felling for the Dunlop after a few months maybe (Probably) less.
I agree here. Personally, I think the Mantle was a better buy than Dunlop especially since you've always wanted one.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:44 AM
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Side note: BGS used to be, by far, the toughest grading company on the planet. They created BVG and downgraded their grading scale so that they can compete with PSA/SGC. I had some postwar cards in the old BGS holders that would easily upgrade two full grades if they were crossed-over.

As a raw card collector, I hate having to crack a BVG slab... But the cards are well protected. Much better then the other TPGs. The holders also don't damage the card edges (what an amazing concept)

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WOW! That Mantle is a BLAZER!!!!!!!
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