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Old 05-01-2013, 11:06 AM
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... is being widely ridiculed by collectors and dealers throughout the hobby.
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Peter Nash - yeah, he's never twisted anything to make a point :roll eyes:

Let's interpret Nash's statement:

"collectors" = 2 guys in Indiana, one of whom claims he is not a collector, and the other who hasn't had much to say in the forums other than to bring up fakes that he thought were real.

"throughout the hobby" = Net54, where Nash generally swipes most of his information, then manipulates it.

Okay, James, now I'll put you on ignore where you belong. You and Dean can continue your tap-dance alone.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:13 AM
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Peter Nash - yeah, he's never twisted anything to make a point :roll eyes:

Let's interpret Nash's statement:

"collectors" = 2 guys in Indiana, one of whom claims he is not a collector, and the other who hasn't had much to say in the forums other than to bring up fakes that he thought were real.

"throughout the hobby" = Net54, where Nash generally swipes most of his information, then manipulates it.

Okay, James, now I'll put you on ignore where you belong. You and Dean can continue your tap-dance alone.
Scott,

What in the world are you talking about? I've been here for over 3 years..what's my tap dance?

Is this supposed to be me? other who hasn't had much to say in the forums other than to bring up fakes that he thought were real.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:17 AM
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... is being widely ridiculed by collectors and dealers throughout the hobby.
...Would you be so kind as to list a few names other than auction houses.

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Old 05-01-2013, 11:22 AM
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Hey, your post says as much as James' !

but that's only an assumption....
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:26 AM
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Scott,

I guess I can't see what I did to offend you? but, I will say this....Man...It's too bad Scott Forrest won't be able to read my posts anymore. My 31 year old heart is officially broken.

Scott,

Do you notice a trend? Since you have showed up on the Autograph side you have picked fights with just about everyone here...I would appreciate it if you could please explain to me what I did to offend you...
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:32 AM
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I actually don't get it either...I figured I must have missed a post/thread along the line.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:49 AM
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Shelly,

My reasons are personal. They have to do with my ailing mother and my family. That is all I am going to say about this. You can be as negative as you want but you don't offer solutions. If there is a reputable authenticator out there then why wouldn't he want to put his reputation on the table? I think that would be a big plus for him and his reputation. I am not selling these for my profit, they are going for a good cause. I will keep none of the money, that is why I have no qualms about pulling them off REA and I have no qualms about letting someone try and prove they are fake. Could you be the one who was bidding on these and thought the price was going to high so you started this rumor? Sour grapes? Don't be a hater Shelly.

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Shelly,

My reasons are personal. They have to do with my ailing mother and my family. That is all I am going to say about this. You can be as negative as you want but you don't offer solutions. If there is a reputable authenticator out there then why wouldn't he want to put his reputation on the table? I think that would be a big plus for him and his reputation. I am not selling these for my profit, they are going for a good cause. I will keep none of the money, that is why I have no qualms about pulling them off REA and I have no qualms about letting someone try and prove they are fake. Could you be the one who was bidding on these and thought the price was going to high so you started this rumor? Sour grapes? Don't be a hater Shelly.
What a total crock. Look who started this thread. It was long before the items where taken down. Not only that I did not change stories you did. You still never answered a simple question what is the guys name? Please also explain why in Gods name I would I buy something that I thought was bad in the first place. What rumor?
What the hell does dont be a hater mean?

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Old 05-01-2013, 11:59 AM
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...Would you be so kind as to list a few names other than auction houses.
AHHH I GET IT NOW...I SEE WHAT SCOTT WAS REFERRING TO...

Shelly,

I didn't say that, it was a copy/paste from the Hauls of Shame Website. If you look at the full post I made you will see that it was copied directly from Hauls of Shame. Which is why I included the link.

Citations 101 my good friend. Here is the foll line again for your reading...
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:20 PM
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AHHH I GET IT NOW...I SEE WHAT SCOTT WAS REFERRING TO...

Shelly,

I didn't say that, it was a copy/paste from the Hauls of Shame Website. If you look at the full post I made you will see that it was copied directly from Hauls of Shame. Which is why I included the link.

Citations 101 my good friend. Here is the foll line again for your reading...
Read it again. They are talking about REA not HOS.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:25 PM
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Read it again. They are talking about REA not HOS.
Shelly,

You're missing my point...You asked me to name the collectors...I can't answer that because I didn't write it....Nash did. ALL I DID WAS COPIED/PASTED FROM THE WEBSITE.

LOOK AT THE SCREENSHOT. I know you know what the copy/paste feature is on the computer
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nash makes ridiculous assumptions and make huge leaps in his articles, plus he's got an axe to grind with REA...so it cheapens his message ALOT to me even if he's correct.

and it's true, when he says the "hobby" thinks 50% of tpa'd ruths are fake, he means n54. when he says "dealers and experts" agree the ruth is a bad forgery he probably means his uncle and nephew in new jersey.
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nash makes ridiculous assumptions and make huge leaps in his articles, plus he's got an axe to grind with REA...so it cheapens his message ALOT to me even if he's correct.

and it's true, when he says the "hobby" thinks 50% of tpa'd ruths are fake, he means n54. when he says "dealers and experts" agree the ruth is a bad forgery he probably means his uncle and nephew in new jersey.
Well-said Quan. There aren't many Nash-supporters on this forum, but apparently we've discovered two of them. You make a really great point about "the hobby thinks 50%..." being Net54. The fact that the non-Net54 part of the hobby is a different group with different opinions is critical - without the other group's state of ignorant bliss, forgers would have a much smaller market...if any.
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nash makes ridiculous assumptions and make huge leaps in his articles, plus he's got an axe to grind with REA...so it cheapens his message ALOT to me even if he's correct.

and it's true, when he says the "hobby" thinks 50% of tpa'd ruths are fake, he means n54. when he says "dealers and experts" agree the ruth is a bad forgery he probably means his uncle and nephew in new jersey.
I agree. HOS looks a lot like a misquoted, poorly edited recap of a net54 thread.

New drinking game: Take a shot every time they repeat the same line or thought in the same article. Bonus: Two shots every time he pats himself on the back.

I thought better of it. I don't want anyone blowing a .30 before bedtime.
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...Would you be so kind as to list a few names other than auction houses.
You only listed part of the quote. It is the decision of REA that is being ridiculed
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