I decided to buy the John Dunlop 1894 Mayo football card and not the 52 Mantle PSA 4

[Zone91]

drc

Hahahaha now that was funny as hell!!!

Hey have to laugh about ones own madness!!!

[itjclarke]

As an aside, it's kind of bum deal for the seller, TonyeTrade. I hope the talk on the board didn't cost him a nice sale.

[Zone91]

itjclarke

No all is OK we spoke on the phone (about 30 minutes ago) and he actually wanted to send the Mantle back in to see if it can be a PSA 5 (he regretted selling it as a PSA 4) so we are on good terms. He gets the same price as well 9I paid 12500$ for the Dunlop and had paid 12950$ for the Mantle)...he is a very cool guy and easy going so no bad vibes at all. I told him if it causes a conflict I would stay with the Mantle card but he was more than OK.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

As an aside, it's kind of bum deal for the seller, TonyeTrade. I hope the talk on the board didn't cost him a nice sale.

My understanding is that Tony owns both cards. Zone gets some bona fides and a rare and obscure card and Tony can sell the Mantle to a much broader market. Everyone knows what a 1952 Topps Mantle card is and rich people who don't collect baseball cards buy them all the time.

[Zone91]

RCMcKenzie


Rich people who do not collect baseball cards buy 52 Mantle's.......hahahaha that was very funny!!!

The Dunlop card will be much more appreciated by me than the Mantle. Plus who knows when the next one will come up for sale....most likely years and years can't say the same for the Mantle. I love the 52 Mantle don't get me wrong I will buy one...one day just not right now. I would not mind owning a nice PSA 2 or PSA 3 52 Mantle for a little less money.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

My understanding is that Tony owns both cards. Zone gets some bona fides and a rare and obscure card and Tony can sell the Mantle to a much broader market. Everyone knows what a 1952 Topps Mantle card is and rich people who don't collect baseball cards buy them all the time.

Oh, I got ya, thanks. That makes all well in my mind.. still a little crazy but well. I should have opened the eBay link for the Dunlop

[Zone91]

cyseymour

You are most kind sir!!! I will take that advice with a open mind.

I will see what I can do with the Mike Mitchell the rest I will keep. But you are right on the Mitchell card for sure.

But the Demmitt I will keep and the old judge card as well. I do not feel I overpaid to much on those.

I will not be buying another card for a few months I spent my maximum I wanted to spend on cards and not a penny more.

[terjung]

/editted

never mind

[Zone91]

To all members here who are concerned:

No I have pretty much reached my limit on funds for a few months for sure....guys I am OK with my finances I pay ALL my bills and eat very well every month (I live alone and only have a pet so no one is bee neglected for sure).

This is money from a coin I sold. And 95% of the money I sold the coin for was used to pay most off most of my condo (I have been in it since 2010 just wanted to pay the most I could on it...it is a very nice place and I would not lose my condo for card purchases or any other ridiculous reason I have control over) off so I know how to handle my money. Priority is not cards it's a hobby.

I make a very good salary every month and my job is not going anywhere...very secure...I was simply confused on the Mantle. I appreciate the concern BUT you guys will not see any other purchases from me on here for a long while it will be a T206 Bill O'Hara error in PSA 2.

[drc]

I'm bipolar (manic depressive), have been since I was a kid, and there's nothing wrong with waiting a month to buy cards. They'll still be there.

[Zone91]

drc

I feel your pain mental illness is tough...keep courage sir (medication and not partying helps a lot do)!! I will slow down just was not sure about the 52 Mantle....I mostly like rare things and the 52 Mantle does not fit that description...hence my change of heart and the Dunlop is a true rare card...and the only card in my collection called a ''Holy Grail'' of any sport...and most likely the only one I will ever own that has that title.

[RCMcKenzie]

If I remember correctly there were members who were very concerned for Jaime when he started posting (not me). Have fun and take it slow. Read the OJ book and buy Lew Lipset's guide. Buy Bob Lemke's 2006 SCD guide and read thru it. Read some of the archives on here. It can be a crazy hobby, but it can also be fun and what you make it. I think Matt H had it right when he said that if someone who is not a member of this board compliments you on your baseball card collection, they are just being polite.

[Zone91]

RCMcKenzie

I am much happier with the Dunlop card than the Mantle...for me rarity is key when collecting. Thanks for the advice. I am not going to be buying any cards for a few months now so the forum will be a bit slower...I am sure some need a break.

[cyseymour]

Adrian,

I've got to admit, I'm worried for you... and I don't think I'm the only one here who feels that way. Yours is a very vulnerable situation, you've suffered from some terrible tragedies and maladies... and you don't know what you are doing with the cards, which are very high-priced items.

You gotta understand, what you are doing, there are very real consequences down the line. Maybe you can talk to some of these dealers and return the cards, get your money back, hopefully they'll understand... and then just stop. Maybe this is not a good time to be doing this... and maybe you oughta really talk with your brother a bit, as well.

It's late and I really can't be posting on your threads anymore, but I hope you'll really read this and think long and hard about consequences for this... money is not always easy to come by... people are worried.... hope you understand.

Cheers,

Jamie

[71buc]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

Adrian,

I've got to admit, I'm worried for you... and I don't think I'm the only one here who feels that way. Yours is a very vulnerable situation, you've suffered from some terrible tragedies and maladies... and you don't know what you are doing with the cards, which are very high-priced items.

You gotta understand, what you are doing, there are very real consequences down the line. Maybe you can talk to some of these dealers and return the cards, get your money back, hopefully they'll understand... and then just stop. Maybe this is not a good time to be doing this... and maybe you oughta really talk with your brother a bit, as well.

It's late and I really can't be posting on your threads anymore, but I hope you'll really read this and think long and hard about consequences for this... money is not always easy to come by... people are worried.... hope you understand.

Cheers,

Jamie

Adrian, Jamie's advice sounds both compassionate and sincere. I'm certain you make much more money than I do and can afford such nice and rare Items. However, impulsively purchasing such high dollar cards is concerning no matter what tax bracket you live in. Please be careful I fear this is going nowhere good.

[Zone91]

How much do you think I should have paid for the Dunlop card I mean only 9 of them exist in the whole world and is known as the ''Holy Grail'' of football cards...I figure it is worth anywhere from 10 000$ to
15 000$...correct me if I am wrong.

I can't see this card going down in value only up over time with such a low supply.

[RCMcKenzie]

Many moons ago, I studied English Lit and remember a quote, "The rich are different" I drank too much, so can't remember if it was Norman Mailer or F Scott Fitzgerald. Someone keeps outbidding me on cards I want. I'm not here to say they are crazy.

[Zone91]

RCMcKenzie

I guess we are different we worry much less...and we mean nothing bad by doing so....we simply say to ourselves I took a loss of this amount this time...but hey next week is pay day from work so all is OK in the end (all my bills are paid off and good food on the table so why worry).

I was poor as a kid growing up and try to live stress free now as a adult....but the guys here are right one must be vigilant when spending no matter how much money one has....I will take the advice and change my habits as of today I think that is the best thing to do.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Zone91

How much do you think I should have paid for the Dunlop card I mean only 9 of them exist in the whole world and is known as the ''Holy Grail'' of football cards...I figure it is worth anywhere from 10 000$ to
15 000$...correct me if I am wrong.

I can't see this card going down in value only up over time with such a low supply.

Adrian,

A card like that, it's not necessarily on price. My Mantle signed rookie and Gehrig signed DeLong were the most I've ever spent on a card, and I never thought I would have spent that much on a card ever.

The point is, I'm happy, regardless of price. And we can all see that you are happy as well, and price isn't too big of a concern. Don't really ever worry about over paying if it's something you're truly going to enjoy, like what I did. I don't ever plan on getting rid of my cards, and if I got offered $30k for the pair, I'd say no because I enjoy them too much.

Best of Luck,

Brent

[Zone91]

HOF Auto Rookies

Good point sir!!! I would not sell the Dunlop either it is here to stay in my collection for a long long while.