I decided to buy the John Dunlop 1894 Mayo football card and not the 52 Mantle PSA 4

[Zone91]

How much do you think I should have paid for the Dunlop card I mean only 9 of them exist in the whole world and is known as the ''Holy Grail'' of football cards...I figure it is worth anywhere from 10 000$ to
15 000$...correct me if I am wrong.

I can't see this card going down in value only up over time with such a low supply.

[RCMcKenzie]

Many moons ago, I studied English Lit and remember a quote, "The rich are different" I drank too much, so can't remember if it was Norman Mailer or F Scott Fitzgerald. Someone keeps outbidding me on cards I want. I'm not here to say they are crazy.

[Zone91]

RCMcKenzie

I guess we are different we worry much less...and we mean nothing bad by doing so....we simply say to ourselves I took a loss of this amount this time...but hey next week is pay day from work so all is OK in the end (all my bills are paid off and good food on the table so why worry).

I was poor as a kid growing up and try to live stress free now as a adult....but the guys here are right one must be vigilant when spending no matter how much money one has....I will take the advice and change my habits as of today I think that is the best thing to do.

[drc]

I wasn't even remotely trying make a medical diagnosis about anyone. I was commenting in relation to the earlier posts about mania.

And I admit you've chosen nice cards. Though I haven't observed the prices.

[tennisguy]

I thought the "holy grail" of football cards was the 35' National Chicle Bronko Nagurski?

[Zone91]

tennisguy

Me to...I was proven wrong here.

[AMBST95]

Zone,

I hope you are honest with yourself and agree to what you've asked yourself. Yesterday, you adamantly had NO buyers remorse and today you spent over 10k on a card you had never heard of 24 hrs before. I understand that you are financially able to swing it, but I hope you slow down "in general" to avoid problems in other aspects of your life. Your penchant for the dramatic and OCD could burn a lot of relationships in the hobby, in your profession, and in life. In general, people like to know what to expect, and you are most definitely a wild card. That can be good in some instances, but I hope for your sake, that you are able to better control your illness with the help of your physicians, medications, and those close to you so that it does not impact your day to day living. As a collective, I think we are seeing a pattern in your posts that concerns us. These are all great cards, but in the end it's just cardboard. I hope that our banter with you on this board is not stoking the fire so to speak. Please take your own advice and openly discuss your decision process on these items with your brother and physicians.

Good luck to you in the future, in and outside of this hobby.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Zone91

How much do you think I should have paid for the Dunlop card I mean only 9 of them exist in the whole world and is known as the ''Holy Grail'' of football cards...I figure it is worth anywhere from 10 000$ to
15 000$...correct me if I am wrong.

I can't see this card going down in value only up over time with such a low supply.

Adrian,

A card like that, it's not necessarily on price. My Mantle signed rookie and Gehrig signed DeLong were the most I've ever spent on a card, and I never thought I would have spent that much on a card ever.

The point is, I'm happy, regardless of price. And we can all see that you are happy as well, and price isn't too big of a concern. Don't really ever worry about over paying if it's something you're truly going to enjoy, like what I did. I don't ever plan on getting rid of my cards, and if I got offered $30k for the pair, I'd say no because I enjoy them too much.

Best of Luck,

Brent

[Zone91]

HOF Auto Rookies

Good point sir!!! I would not sell the Dunlop either it is here to stay in my collection for a long long while.

[jefferyepayne]

I love it when baseball card collectors talk football ;-) However, a couple of things that Zone91 were told are not true.

1) True football experts now put the estimate for the number of Dunlop cards to be between 20 - 30. It's still pretty rare but isn't even close to the rarest football card that exists. There are 14-15 graded Dunlop's between PSA and SGC. The others aren't graded. Due to the press around some recent findings of this card, others have popped up in the past year.

2) At least 4-5 Dunlop's have been sold on the public market during the past year so this card does come up for auction more frequently than you have been told. There have been years, however, where it did not appear in an auction so it's definitely not a given that you can find one if you want one. I've been offered three of them in the past year so they are definitely out there, though.

The question as to whether the Dunlop card is the Holy Grail of football cards hugely depends upon your perspective. Some serious collectors prefer a high grade National Chicle Nagurski to the Dunlop simply because Nagurski was a pro star whereas Dunlop was barely a starter on his college team and unknown to the general population. His claim to fame is due to a printing error that left his name off the card. This is probably why the population of this card is lower than the other cards in the N302 Mayo set.

Others consider star cards with lower population to be the big dogs of the hobby. As examples, I believe there are only two Star Player Candy Red Grange cards and two Rogers Peet Ken Strong cards known to exist.

I personally love the Dunlop card and wouldn't trade it for any of the others.

jeff

[Zone91]

jefferyepayne

Thanks I am fine if there are 20 -30 known still a very rare card compared to say the Wagner or some other expensive cards.

[Zone91]

Leon

Will I be banned I followed you rule of 2 topics maximum per day?

[barrysloate]

Adrian- must you comment on every single post that refers to you, no matter how small? Can't you just let a few of them pass without posting? That's the issue, that this board has become Adrian's dog and pony show. Just take a break once and a while, and everything will be fine.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Leon

Will I be banned I followed you rule of 2 topics maximum per day?

No, Adrian, you have abided by what was asked of you. I don't see banning you at all. However, as others have said, one person can not take over the board, me included. If you post 50-100 times a day, about every single little thing that comes to your mind, then it turns others off. Just take it easy. As has been said, you don't have to reply to every single post, with another post. I just want a happy community and many members are not happy because of how much you are posting the last few days. We all want you to be in the hobby and I don't think anyone actually dislikes you.....they just dislike the forum being taken over the way it has been. If it persists then I will ask you to post less. I still think you are a very good guy and I like you....
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