Babe Ruth?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Good one Brock, I am booking airline tickets to Michigan now .

I'm sure you are kidding, but I remember things getting so bad with a guy in the billiards hobby ripping people off, that a couple of guys were on the verge of buying plane tickets to Milwaukee to get satisfaction. These people actually knew the obscure bar where they thief would be, evidence would be in hand, and all they had to do was figure out a way to get in and out with their own lives. It didn't happen, and they ended up eventually getting their money back by contacting his local police department, but it was very tempting.

If you steal from people long enough, you'll eventually get hold of someone to whom money means a lot less than setting things straight.

[jgmp123]

I did just happen to notice that PSA is advertising the card and the H&S auction on their site...

http://www.psacard.com/Articles/Arti...-ends-april-11

[Frozen in Time]

Usually the only threads discussing autos that I follow are those for Mantle - which I do solely for educating myself. But, wow this one has everything and has been all over the place, except for what matters most and that is a cogent explanation for why this Ruth is deemed authentic or a forgery. Aside from the plethora of personal issues and personality exchanges sadly that information appears to have been pushed aside.

Don't get me wrong, I understand to some degree a few of the underlying factors that have carried over from previous threads between participants and I do find the back and forth somewhat entertaining - along the same lines that the "reality shows" are entertaining. But from the standpoint of acquiring some new information to help with assessing the authenticity of a Ruth auto I'm not getting a lot.

So let me see if I can generate some info. It was mentioned that the potential forger for this Ruth has a "tell" in his work. Is this a characteristic of his Ruth forgeries that always appears in his work but that never appears in a real Ruth auto? If so, how does one determine that - would not one have to have multiple Ruth autos that are 100% known to be the forger's?

Thanks,

Craig

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Frozen in Time

Usually the only threads discussing autos that I follow are those for Mantle - which I do solely for educating myself. But, wow this one has everything and has been all over the place, except for what matters most and that is a cogent explanation for why this Ruth is deemed authentic or a forgery. Aside from the plethora of personal issues and personality exchanges sadly that information appears to have been pushed aside.

Don't get me wrong, I understand to some degree a few of the underlying factors that have carried over from previous threads between participants and I do find the back and forth somewhat entertaining - along the same lines that the "reality shows" are entertaining. But from the standpoint of acquiring some new information to help with assessing the authenticity of a Ruth auto I'm not getting a lot.

So let me see if I can generate some info. It was mentioned that the potential forger for this Ruth has a "tell" in his work. Is this a characteristic of his Ruth forgeries that always appears in his work but that never appears in a real Ruth auto? If so, how does one determine that - would not one have to have multiple Ruth autos that are 100% known to be the forger's?

Thanks,

Craig

This thread has also had several 'talk show hosts', but that's understandable too..

It's a shame that Ruth himself apparently didn't have a "tell". But then again, maybe he did, but that's a secret as well

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

I did just happen to notice that PSA is advertising the card and the H&S auction on their site...

http://www.psacard.com/Articles/Arti...-ends-april-11

Why shouldn't they? The ticket is good.

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Why shouldn't they? The ticket is good.

David,

Just referring back to the "card was sent to Heritage and rejected by PSA" theory..

[chaddurbin]

huggins is probably an advertiser on psa. that's just a press release that psa put up for huggins.

[rscheck]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

David,

Just referring back to the "card was sent to Heritage and rejected by PSA" theory..

But the ticket wasn't sent to Heritage. Only a photo of it and I have an email from Ron offering to send me a packet after he had the photos for 3 days. As for psa they have not seen the ticket live (cant speak to if they saw a photo of it)

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

David,

Just referring back to the "card was sent to Heritage and rejected by PSA" theory..

That wasn't a "theory," James. That's what the OP told us.

A bit of legwork gone wrong, perhaps.

[shelly]

Rscheck, I have one question. Did you at any time offer this item to anyone outside of the auction houses?

[rscheck]

Originally Posted by shelly

Rscheck, I have one question. Did you at any time offer this item to anyone outside of the auction houses?

I did. One other guy based on the same photos I sent Ron and Josh. He made an offer on the ticket but I thought it was low. The whole thing involved a couple of emails in the beginning of January....thats when I settled on H&S

[David Atkatz]

Rscheck... you don't have to answer any questions. No one has presented a shred of evidence supporting the OP's claim that the ticket is a forgery. Nada.

And, after repeated questioning, the two "experts" who don't like your ticket (especially the pompous twit who started this whole thing) absolutely refuse to provide any.

As I said before, good luck with your auction.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by Runscott

If you steal from people long enough, you'll eventually get hold of someone to whom money means a lot less than setting things straight.

+1