Babe Ruth?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Dan,

Like I have said...I would love for it to be authentic just to know that one exists. I hope I am wrong.

But at the same time, the stub is now at $4k...knowing what you know/see/have read here, would you be comfortable buying it?

I have seen NOTHING in this thread that leads me to believe the autograph is not authentic. The ONLY thing we have is Chris saying that it is not good which leads to a domino effect of others who respect his opinion agreeing with it. He has not shared one shred of evidence that this is a forgery. He claims it is no good in his second post on this thread..the same day he started the thread yet later claims he is still doing research on it. He had no idea it was certed by JSA, and he seems to recall it being rejected by PSA (although I'm not sure how he can recall something like that unless he actually works at PSA...does PSA have public records of rejected autographs?). He apparently believes that Heritage rejected the autograph, the consignor disagrees with that assessment.

Why am I supposed to take Chris's word over JSA? If this was on ebay with the JSA letter would the EMR team boot it?

I know if I were the consignor I'd be pretty pissed off about this thread.

[David Atkatz]

And, not a shred of evidence has been presented supporting the claim that the ticket itself is bad. Nothing but a "gut feeling" based on sharp corners.

Post #50 in this thread pictures an auction lot of (older) Detroit tickets, some overprinted, none representing an important game (so that the ticket would have been carefully preserved), and yet all are near mint, with sharp corners.

[slidekellyslide]

Ordinary ticket stubs from 1954...all sharp corners.

[jgmp123]

Right I get all of that and Chris and I went back and forth about that, but the question is.....

David/Dan,

Would you buy it?

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Right I get all of that and Chris and I went back and forth about that, but the question is.....

David/Dan,

Would you buy it?

No, James. The question is...

"Is it real?"

(And the answer is, with very little doubt, "yes.")

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

Right I get all of that and Chris and I went back and forth about that, but the question is.....

David/Dan,

Would you buy it?

The only autographs I buy are ones that no one would even think about forging so no I wouldn't buy it...if I did collect Ruth autos this one is certed by JSA, we have public statements that Spence looked it over again and still gave it a thumbs up and it's in an SGC slab. What's not to like other than the purely manufactured cloud of mystery?

[shelly]

Here is a 1934 ruth autograph from Hunt auctions
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[Forever Young]

1934 BABE RUTH exemplars

[shelly]

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[Runscott]

I used to save every ticket to every sports event I went to. Each was tossed in a box. I take a look at them every now and then when I'm looking for a particular ticket, but I haven't taken special care of them. Some are over thirty years old - all look basically brand new. Tickets hold up fairly well.

Also, some have a rough edge where they were torn at the gate. I had an urge at one point to cut off the rough edge on a few of them, but resisted. Perhaps the holder of this ticket couldn't resist?

As far as autograph authenticity - I have no idea. But I do know what Chris' opinion was on the green-ink '27 Yankees ball, so, with all respect to Chris, as anyone can make a mistake and this autograph could certainly be bad, just having Chris say it's bad isn't enough.

[rscheck]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I have seen NOTHING in this thread that leads me to believe the autograph is not authentic. The ONLY thing we have is Chris saying that it is not good which leads to a domino effect of others who respect his opinion agreeing with it. He has not shared one shred of evidence that this is a forgery. He claims it is no good in his second post on this thread..the same day he started the thread yet later claims he is still doing research on it. He had no idea it was certed by JSA, and he seems to recall it being rejected by PSA (although I'm not sure how he can recall something like that unless he actually works at PSA...does PSA have public records of rejected autographs?). He apparently believes that Heritage rejected the autograph, the consignor disagrees with that assessment.

Why am I supposed to take Chris's word over JSA? If this was on ebay with the JSA letter would the EMR team boot it?

Pissed? Nah just confused why you guys call this a hobby I have an email from Rob Rosen on 1/3/13 asking for photos of the ticket and signature (which I sent on the same day) and an email from Rob Rosen on 1/7/13 asking for my address so he can mail me the contract. I had made the decision to go with H&S on 1/4 based on my conversations with Josh. If seeing copies of these emails helps please let me know and I can attach them.