Opinion on Ruth 1 of 1 Cut-Auto Card??

[travrosty]

It's JSA's fault for not putting a photo up with the corresponding cert number.

no one could pass off this carp without jsa dropping the ball again and refusing to put up a picture in their database.

if jsa puts up a picture, then they cant use the fake cert without being caught in a lie. all someone would have to do is enter the cert number in jsa's database, and when the photo doesn't match, busted!

[thenavarro]

Originally Posted by travrosty

It's JSA's fault for not putting a photo up with the corresponding cert number.

no one could pass off this carp without jsa dropping the ball again and refusing to put up a picture in their database.

if jsa puts up a picture, then they cant use the fake cert without being caught in a lie. all someone would have to do is enter the cert number in jsa's database, and when the photo doesn't match, busted!

They have righted the ship I believe on new items they authenticate with a loa. Here's a jeter ball I had done about 11 days ago or so and its already pictured on their site:

Cert number. X89296

Mike

[RichardSimon]

The listing has been removed by the seller.
I received this e mail from him not long ago:


Okay, thank you. I will verify with JSA, then remove the listing and deal with ebay regarding the matter.

Thank you for helping expose the fraud.

Kind regards

- fanofmantle

[chaddurbin]

that's great richard, you should tell him his 45 day ebay/paypal protection is almost up...so tell him to file that claim asap and get his $1800 back.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

that's great richard, you should tell him his 45 day ebay/paypal protection is almost up...so tell him to file that claim asap and get his $1800 back.

will do

[GrayGhost]

FANTASTIC. I feel the seller just suffered from Blind faith in , this case, JSA, tho it was a FAKE JSA. Again, you need to at least have a clue what you are looking at, aside from the Cert. The Ruth was a horrible fake to anyone who looks at any on his own.

And another example here of why this Forum out and out is great most times. People helping others who they don't even know. Thanks Richard and everyone, Seller seems grateful he was told too.

[travrosty]

can it be returned to the original seller if it has been altered and is now in a card form. if the original seller gets the card back and refunds, he doesnt really need the fake jsa letter back, it is now verified via the card that it has been certed, even though it hasn't.

that card will float around forever until it sells to another dupe, even if not on ebay.

[sylbry]

Leaf and Beckett seem to be the one that legitimized the fake. JSA never saw it. Leaf and Beckett did.

Not so sure if the seller is really an innocent victim. Seller appears to have purchased enough autographs to know better.