EMR Team-Please have this one removed

thetruthisoutthere · #1 03-04-2013, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daves_resale_shop

No,

I have notified them several times of Ace Certified material only to see it close...

Case in point:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-CU...p2047675.l2557

Gone and "Voided."

RichardSimon · #2 03-04-2013, 06:28 AM

How do jerks like this even get an autograph? He admits he knows nothing about sports collectibles.
Look at his other items for sale. A keyboard, a scanner, jewelry and books.
Only on the bay can crap like this go on.

Leon · #3 03-04-2013, 06:41 AM

Thanks to our members and the EMR folks in helping keep the hobby safer.....

sylbry · #4 03-04-2013, 07:07 AM

travrosty · #5 03-04-2013, 12:23 PM

[QUOTE=sylbry;1098219]I have tried unsuccessfully to report the multiple user ID's that are selling awful Bo Jackson signed baseballs. Every time a new listing pops up I report it but they never get removed. How on earth do you get ebay do actually do something about the listings? Here are the listings under the multiple user IDs over the past 90 days. All of the baseballs are horrible fakes signed in the same hand. I would assume every other baseball sold by these sellers is fake as well. Someone is making a good chunk of money via ebay's complicity towards fake autographs.

you cant get ebay to do anything regarding fake autographs, thats the point.

i ask emr's to help remove a fake sonny liston, cant be done, its psa. forget about fairness and equality. it's protectionism.

calling ALL emr's, heres the fake

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=...w=1368&bih=620

here's the proof.

http://www.fighttoys.com/PSAListon.htm

now where is the POOF? Ebay doesn't care about fake autographs, they care about protecting certain groups and the name on the cert. i guess pre-approved means infallable?????? Is the pope certing these? No, just Steve Grad.

novakjr · #6 03-04-2013, 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=travrosty;1098346]

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylbry

they care about protecting certain groups and the name on the cert. i guess pre-approved means infallable?????? Is the pope certing these? No, just Steve Grad.

I don't think it has as much to do with them being infallable, as it does that there is some level of trust that the company's guarantees will hold up, if it's discovered that they made a mistake..

travrosty · #7 03-04-2013, 12:42 PM

[QUOTE=novakjr;1098355]

Quote:

Originally Posted by travrosty

I don't think it has as much to do with them being infallable, as it does that there is some level of trust that the company's guarantees will hold up, if it's discovered that they made a mistake..

but they dont offer a guarantee, and they specifically say that their opinion is an opinion and no guarantee is in effect. although there are no openings at psa for the pope to authenticate at the current time, there is a pope position open, hmmm...

novakjr · #8 03-04-2013, 12:36 PM

sylbry. Damn. Bo must love those official league balls. I almost wonder if ebay should ban all signed "official league" balls, unless they come with certification from an approved authenticator.. Personally, I'm getting tired of having to sort through them..Almost EVERY one is atrocious, and comes with some hokey holo, generic father-son COA, or Global cert..

sylbry · #9 03-04-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by novakjr

sylbry. Damn. Bo must love those official league balls. I almost wonder if ebay should ban all signed "official league" balls, unless they come with certification from an approved authenticator.. Personally, I'm getting tired of having to sort through them..Almost EVERY one is atrocious, and comes with some hokey holo, generic father-son COA, or Global cert..

This caught my attention because I know Bo's signature nearly as well as he does. Have spent over 20 years buying and selling his autograph. There are 20 different user ID's on ebay all selling the identical fake Bo Jackson signed items. And these same 20 user ID's are also selling fake autographs of other players as well. Who ever is behind this is committing a massive amount of fraud and ebay does nothing each and every time I report the items.

Why even bother allowing people to report items if you are not going to act on it? This isn't some unlucky/gullible individual who bought some crap certed by ACE, Global, Drew Max, or any of the other bumbling idiots and now just trying to dump it on a different unlucky/gullible individual. This is twenty unique ebay ID's all selling the same fake items. This is organized fraud on a large scale. Seems like a large problem to me.

RichardSimon · #10 03-04-2013, 02:44 PM

There are many out there who authenticate fakes all the time but do not call them bumbling idiots.
The ones who authenticate fakes consistently know exactly what they are doing.

Mr. Zipper · #11 03-04-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sylbry

This is twenty unique ebay ID's all selling the same fake items. This is organized fraud on a large scale. Seems like a large problem to me.

There are a number of forgery rings operating on eBay. Regrettably, it's like whack-a-mole. You identify and stamp out a seller or two and they will all close down -- only to return under all new names a few weeks later.

These are organized criminals who are determined and make a lot of money through this enterprise. They are not just going to easily give up.

sylbry · #12 06-30-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sylbry

Looks like PSA is now starting to authenticate these lousy fakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BO-JACKSON-S...60686380483%26

And I have continued my crusade against these fakes on ebay to no avail.

travrosty · #13 07-01-2013, 09:49 AM

ebay wont pull of the fakes, that is the problem. grad admitted it, spence admitted it, and they are the authenticators!

fakes everywhere with boxing, they dont care. emr's report it, who cares? no one cares over there.

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from mr. cycleback's interview with Spence.

SPENCE: Based on what comes in for authentication that has derived through eBay there is serious reason for concern.* They basically take a caveat emptor approach and let people take their chances. If I was to get involved in a purchase I would use a credit card so that I have a way of placing a charge back on the vendor if returning the item proved to be a hassle.* Ebay has turned non-business people into a swarm of mail order companies that has been difficult at best to regulate.

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relevent quotes from Grad on a collectors forum.

I too, have seen way too
many fakes on e-bay. *Yes, I have notified them, but to no avail. *

. . . . . .
*
E-bay, will never do anything about the problem. *Their main concern is making
money.

.....

Thank you for your time.

Steve Grad

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Now when the two biggest guys in authentication volume say that about ebay, what does that tell you?

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