T206 white borders master

[Craig M]

Who is the appropriate person to contact to have them update the spelling of a name in the T206 WHITE BORDERS MASTER?

The card in my possession is a batting pose with a red background. On the card it reads:

WILLETT, DETROIT (2 L's and 2 T's)

The master shows only the two below:

WILLET (2 L's and 1 T)
WILLETTS (2 L's, 2 T's and 1 S)

I only ask this because if the MASTER is the true master; then the MASTER should be correct.

Possibly there is a WILLETTS floating around out there.

Craig

[White Borders]

Thanks, I've made the correction to the batting pose - it should be LL and TT. The pitching pose is correct with LL, TT, and one S.

Best Regards and Happy Collecting
Craig

[Craig M]

Craig,

Since I am working on a T206 Super Set, I started to catalog my T206's this weekend and found a Terry TURNER, CLEVELAND card that you show on the T206 White Borders Master Set Spreadsheet as a YELLOW box (Possible, but not yet confirmed on T206Resource.com

Included below are the scans of fron tand back.

Can you please explain to me how you know for sure GRAY (Probable No-Print) and BLACK (Impossible or Very Unlikely to Exist)?

Craig

[White Borders]

Originally Posted by Craig M

Craig,

Since I am working on a T206 Super Set, I started to catalog my T206's this weekend and found a Terry TURNER, CLEVELAND card that you show on the T206 White Borders Master Set Spreadsheet as a YELLOW box (Possible, but not yet confirmed on T206Resource.com

Included below are the scans of fron tand back.

Can you please explain to me how you know for sure GRAY (Probable No-Print) and BLACK (Impossible or Very Unlikely to Exist)?

Craig

Thanks Craig, we really appreciate the confirmation. I'll update the spreadsheet and pass it on to Tim Cathey. I'll also let him explain the how we determine which cards are possible but un-confirmed, which are probable No-Prints, and the Impossible or Very Unlikely to Exist.

Thanks again and best regards
Craig

[Abravefan11]

Craig - Thank you for confirming the Turner and including the scan. It’s confirmed on the site and added to the searchable database.

Here is an explanation of the two shaded categories on Craig's spreadsheet you asked about. If something isn't clear, please ask me a follow up.

Impossible or Very Unlikely to Exist
By studying the confirmed subjects we know when certain backs were printed and with which subjects. This allows us to predict that a front/back combo is not possible with a great deal of certainty.

For example: American Beauty 350 (Frame), Carolina Brights and Cycle 350 backs were only printed using subjects from print group 2 and 5. So finding a subject from print groups 1,2,4 or 6 with this back is “impossible or very unlikely.”

Here are a couple of easier “impossible or very unlikely” examples. Subjects printed with 150 Series backs will not be found with 460 Series backs. Or a major league subject will not be found with an Old Mill Southern League back.

Probable No-Print
The main difference between these and the “impossible or very unlikely” combos, is that these subjects were being printed during the same time frame as the backs in question. For example over 150 Subjects were in production during the print group 1 time frame, but only 34 were printed with the Sweet Caporal 150 No.649OP back. Therefore we classify the other subjects as “Probable-No-Prints” because theoretically they are possible, but not likely given what we know.

A number of different factors are used when determining if a subject should be classified as “Possible-but NOT confirmed” or a “Probable No-Print.” We try to be cautious and leave subjects on the probable list until we have good indicators to move them to the probable-no print list. A few months ago we found a solid link between 75 subjects and three backs that led us to move them all from possible to probable no-prints on these three lists.

With all that said the checklists are a constant work in progress. Since the site went live a little over a year ago, we've had over 100 new front/back confirmations added. We’re working to find other solid indicators to move subjects from possible to probable-no print, and always open to a subject moving the other way. By no means do we claim the checklists to be infallible, but that is what we're working toward whether attainable or not.

Thanks again to everyone for their help.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I have the same card. Is it a big deal?

[Craig M]

Alex,

I don't think it's a big deal.

It was indicated on the T206 White Borders Master Spreadsheet as Possible but NOT confirmed on T206Resource.com

So now it's confirmed on T206Resource.com and the spreadsheet is also updated.

Craig

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Where can I find this list?

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

Where can I find this list?

You can find any of the checklists and the searchable database HERE

You can find the T206 White Borders Master HERE

[Craig M]

Craig and Tim,

Still working through cataloging a stack of T206's I have here.

I believe I now have found a (Probable No Print).

Can you please confirm for me? Even though paper is missing on the back, it is a Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 42.

The card is of KAISER WILHEM, BROOKLYN (VARIATION - Batting).

Attached scans

Craig







Attached scans of front and back

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by Craig M

Craig and Tim,

Still working through cataloging a stack of T206's I have here.

I believe I now have found a (Probable No Print).

Can you please confirm for me? Even though paper is missing on the back, it is a Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 42.

The card is of KAISER WILHEM, BROOKLYN (VARIATION - Batting).

That's a 350-460 Factory 42 Overprint, which is confirmed:
http://t206resource.com/Checklist.ht...cordPosition=2

[Craig M]

WOW Erick, how could I miss that; I now barely see the red overprint on the card but the scan really shows it.

Maybe it's time to get glasses!

Craig