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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
White, Houston. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
My 1909 and 1910 REACH BB Guides indicate that there were 3 guys named White in the Texas League. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Thank you, Ted. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Craig W
The player on the T206 card appears to be wearing a catchers mitt. Of the Whites that played in the Texas League from 1907 - 1910, Foley White was the only one that was a catcher, according to SABR. So, I'm inclined to believe it is Foley White on the card, but shown with the wrong team. Or perhaps he signed with Houston during an off-season, but then traded to another team before the season started, which could account for there not being a record for him with Houston. Anyways, it is an interesting discovery about The Monster. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: T206Collector
...how a player on the most famous prewar set of all time may not be who we all thought it was for the past 100 years are very interesting to me. I would love to see photographic evidence to help here. I was going to agree with Frank that it wasn't Foley, but the catcher's mitt is persuasive evidence that it is.... |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
The catcher's mitt is significant... good catch! |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Tim Newcomb
Great post, Frank!! There are those who appreciate actual card posts |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Craig W
Hi Frank, |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Scot Reader
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Craig W
Hi Scot, Welcome back and hope you had a great vacation! |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Ted, Paul, Tim, Craig, and Scot... |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Craig W
Hmmm ... looks like Foley caught in 80 games for Waco in 1909, but only batted .207. It appears that William Powell went from Fort Worth to Waco during the 09 season. Between the two teams, he batted .242 in 125 games. Oh, and Powell was a catcher! |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Richard Cline - RC
Frank - Great topic and fun to follow. This does beat some of the usual rantings of late although those can also be entertaining. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Bill Todd
Sorry, guys, I'm not seeing the similarities. The color is roughly the same, but other than that everything I notice is different. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: T206Collector
1. Was Burdick the first guy to identify "White, Houston" as "Foley"? |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Matt
I agree with Bill - I don't see any convincing evidence, based on the painting of those uniforms, to assume both players played for the same team. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Richard
Is it just my eyes, or is there a 'T' on White's cap? |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Darren
Cool topic and I believe an important one at that. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: john/z28jd
I should've started a thread a couple weeks back when i noticed and it sort of got buried in another thread but the card thats labeled as Lucky Wright is actually a 1903 picture of Gene Wright,a pitcher from Cleveland. Don't have the guide to see if its really him or not but the picture definitely isnt Lucky Wright who was a 1909 pitcher for Cleveland also,but was also a redhead. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Scot Reader
John, |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: john/z28jd
This is a scan of Wright,owned by Max Weder |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Scot Reader
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: T206Collector
Who told us it was Lucky Wright in the first place? |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Scot Reader
Paul, |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Art M.
Very interesting thread! |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Scot Reader
Art, |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Ditto....for Art M's and Scot R's comment regarding "Harry" Camnitz possibly depicted in the T206 set. |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
1st......I have taken a personal interest in researching SAMUEL Howard Camnitz and Henry RICHARDSON Camnitz. Since my 2nd cousin |
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Could that be someone other than Foley White in the white border tobacco cards, T206???
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
So Harry Camnitz is the guy that is standing back a bit, with his shoulders behind the guys to each side... Maybe Harry Camnitz is in T206. A time or two I'd wondered why Howie would have 3 cards. |
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T206 White
I was looking around on eBay and found this box score and article on the Houston Buffaloes. It shows a "White" in the line-up with a c. f next to his name, but it is smudged. The article talks about a "Foley", I think in centerfield.
I've mused about this in other threads in the past, while looking for those threads, I found this one.
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Here is the link to the ebay auction containing the newspaper clipping from presumably a St. Louis newspaper in 1909.
This box score and related run-down of the game is the first time I have seen Foley White on Houston. He is not listed in Baseball_Reference on Houston. This information lines up with what TedZ posted about a centerfielder named White on Houston in 1909. It does not explain why the person pictured in the T206 known as "Foley White" Houston or "White, Houston" is wearing a catcher's glove. Maybe White played center and catcher like Craig Biggio. www.ebay.com/itm/352684159332
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