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Old 02-11-2013, 09:23 PM
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I am very impressed by the thought that went into this. What made you get the idea in the first place?

Again, why hasn't anyone contacted Alan Ray (the only person I know of who may have actually seen an uncut sheet)?
Hi Alex-

I've often wondered the same thing after reading "The Card",,,in the very back of the book, it states that Mr.Ray didn't return numerous calls during the research phase of the book. I guess he did admit to them that the Wagner wasn't cut by a machine & that he tried to tell people but no one would listen.

It would be nice for him to tell the whole story about whether or not it was cut from a sheet or a strip, and if it was a sheet, who was on it and how was it configured. Ray did say he was going to write a book about it all, but I am not aware of such a book yet.

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Old 02-15-2013, 03:30 PM
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Looking for your opinion on this Steve. Two different seymours with the
same Criss. I tried to line up the top marks as close as I could.
The first one the bottom mark on Criss is lower and the 2nd one
is higher but the tops line up on both fairly close.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:30 PM
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Regular scan of 2nd seymour.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:20 PM
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I think they both fit just fine. There will be a bit of misalingnment because of centering, And a bit of distortion in the scans themselves. I think one of the pair appears slightly taller in the scan than the other.

I'm hoping to get back to you and a couple other people this weekend. I haven't had much free time this week. By the way, I finally found a use for the security inserts from modern packs. I give them to my daughter when she demands cards. They're even better than late 80's commons since she can draw her own.

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Hi Alex-

I've often wondered the same thing after reading "The Card",,,in the very back of the book, it states that Mr.Ray didn't return numerous calls during the research phase of the book. I guess he did admit to them that the Wagner wasn't cut by a machine & that he tried to tell people but no one would listen.

It would be nice for him to tell the whole story about whether or not it was cut from a sheet or a strip, and if it was a sheet, who was on it and how was it configured. Ray did say he was going to write a book about it all, but I am not aware of such a book yet.

Sincerely, Clayton
Ray is not the only person to see a sheet or partial-Bill Mastro and the late Bob Sevchuk did as well. Doesn't matter I guess as neither one is talking.
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:04 AM
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I have found many of matching marks with different players on the
front which could be because they were in the same placement
on another sheet. I think we should also consider the possibilty that some
were on the same sheet in another area. Many of the marks are on
the same angle and when you extend that angle you come up with
some very similar marks.
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There was a Chase white cap that sold on eBay tonight with a plate scratch on the back:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1911...-/261167773206
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There was a Chase white cap that sold on eBay tonight with a plate scratch on the back.
I may have missed it, but I looked back through the thread and didn't see any other scratches in the same location as the Chase.

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