Greatest fluke seasons

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

OK, by this criteria, how about Shane Spencer at the end of 1998 for the Yanks.

Late call-up, career minor leaguer. No major league experience and finished the season 27 games, 10 HR's, 27 RBI's, .373 BA, 1.321 OPS, Beat up on the Rangers in his first playoff series.

Middling career after that. Probably only stayed in the major leagues the following six years, based on his reputation from that late season call-up.

For short spurt flukes.

Chris Shelton's start to 2006.. The guy had 9 HR's through the first 13 games.. At that point he was batting .471/.500/1.216. Yet managed to find himself back in the minors by the end of July.

Another full season one.

Fausto Carmona's(Roberto Hernandez Heredia) 2007 seems to stand out as well.. 19-8 3.06 era. In '06 he was 1-10 with a 5.42. In '08 he was 8-7 with a 5.44...To make things worse he followed that up with 5-12 with a 6.32 in '09..

On the bad luck side of the fence, I'd have to say Kevin Millwood's losing record in '05. He led the AL with a 2.86 era, yet only had a 9-11 record..And it's not like he was on a bad team, as the Indians were 93-69 that year.

[chris6net]

As a kid I remember looking at Bert Campaneris,s baseball card and his 22 home runs in 1970 stood out. He hit 79 home runs in 19 seasons but 22 in one year

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Steve Stone going 25-8 and winning the Cy Young Award. The next season he was 5-8.

I was gonna point that out....25-8, 3.23 ERA.

He never had more than 15 wins in a season(and even that was only 1 season..next highest was 12 wins), and his next lowest ERA was 3.77 ERA.

He was out of baseball after only one more season.

Also Daren Erstad in the Angels championship season in 2002.. .355 BA. Never hit over .299 any other season.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

I was gonna point that out....25-8, 3.23 ERA.

He never had more than 15 wins in a season(and even that was only 1 season..next highest was 12 wins), and his next lowest ERA was 3.77 ERA.

He was out of baseball after only one more season.

Also Daren Erstad in the Angels championship season in 2002.. .355 BA. Never hit over .299 any other season.

My numbers were slightly off...he was 25-7 followed by 4-7.

[packs]

Sort of a different take on flukes, but somehow last year Zach Cozart managed to hit 15 home runs while only driviing in 35 runs.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by packs

Sort of a different take on flukes, but somehow last year Zach Cozart managed to hit 15 home runs while only driviing in 35 runs.

Rob Deer '92 had 32 HR's and only 64 RBIs.
Garret Jones in 2009 had 21/44
Chris Duncan in 2006 had 22/43
Kevin Maas in '90 had 21/41
Chris Hoiles in '92 had 20/40
Carlton Fisk in '84 had 21/43

[stlcardsfan]

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[mybuddyinc]

........... one of my heroes ............

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[flavius]

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[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by novakjr

Rob Deer '92 had 32 HR's and only 64 RBIs.
Garret Jones in 2009 had 21/44
Chris Duncan in 2006 had 22/43
Kevin Maas in '90 had 21/41
Chris Hoiles in '92 had 20/40
Carlton Fisk in '84 had 21/43

Those stat lines look weird. What's crazy is all those guys still had a higher RBI to HR ratio (near or above 2:1) than Bonds did in his 73 HR season.. Think he ended up with like 132 RBIs.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Those stat lines look weird. What's crazy is all those guys still had a higher RBI to HR ratio (near or above 2:1) than Bonds did in his 73 HR season.. Think he ended up with like 132 RBIs.

Yeah, that's because they usually walked Bonds if anybody was on base. Sometimes even with the bases loaded.

PED's or not, he had a really mind-boggling effect on National League pitching for a while there. To think he did what he did while everybody was blatantly trying to pitch around him.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Yeah, that's because they usually walked Bonds if anybody was on base. Sometimes even with the bases loaded.

PED's or not, he had a really mind-boggling effect on National League pitching for a while there. To think he did what he did while everybody was blatantly trying to pitch around him.

It was totally nuts! Regardless of your feelings on the matter, to witness it was awe inspiring. I must have gone to 25-30 games that year and it seemed like he went deep each time.. If not twice. And it seemed those were often his only official at bats in the game. I remember his hitting singles that year that were lasers off the bricks that bounced back to the outfielder too quickly for Bonds to reach 2nd. 232 walks, that was not a fluke and that will not happen again.

[Eric72]

...but worth mention, I think.

Pitcher Hoyt Wilhelm, in his first major league at-bat, hit a home run.

He went the rest of his 21 year (432 at-bats) career without hitting another.

[texmrsport]

Virgil Trucks threw 2 no-hitters in 1952 with an overall record of 5-19.

[boneheadandrube]

1914 Miracle Boston Braves? Anybody?
GB

[sdkammeyer]

Originally Posted by mrvster

ok ok.......

That's a hell of a fish sir! What did you use to land it? Or was it a "fluke"?

[mrvster]

Thanks Steve! was caught about 500 yards off of Seaside Pier in N.J.(Which Was Destroyed by Sandy this year) in June.....Bait- Live Bunker.....
Rod- Shimano Trevala w/ 15 # test mono.....fish took me 20 minutes to land(I was on a party boat w like 30 other fisherman)......Fish is a "STRIPED BASS"....fish is close to 40 pounder....

[sdkammeyer]

Originally Posted by mrvster

Thanks Steve! was caught about 500 yards off of Seaside Pier in N.J.(Which Was Destroyed by Sandy this year) in June.....Bait- Live Bunker.....
Rod- Shimano Trevala w/ 15 # test mono.....fish took me 20 minutes to land(I was on a party boat w like 30 other fisherman)......Fish is a "STRIPED BASS"....fish is close to 40 pounder....

I'm an angler myself. Most of my "real" fishing is done on the Upper Peninsula of Michigan now. When I said "fluke" I meant did you just accidentally fall into that one or were you set up to get him. Sounds like you were set up!

I'm a big Shimano fan myself. At least for reels anyways. Some of their rods are ok for the river fishin' around here. I picked up my first St. Croix rod last year and i'm hooked now. (no pun intended)

Anyways, nice fish!! I'll dig out some pics of a few gigantic Northern Pike and pm you

[packs]

How about Herb Washington's 1974 season? 92 games, 29 stolen bases, no official at bats and a World Series championship.

[Griffins]

Originally Posted by travrosty

i dont think an entire season can be a fluke, give me the biggest fluke decade for any player. flukes are one day, one week maybe, something like that, a hot streak for a little while, not an entire season. you dont hit 191 rbi's in a season and its a fluke.

Ok, how about Fernando Tatis with 2 grand slams in an inning?
That was a one hour fluke.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by packs

How about Herb Washington's 1974 season? 92 games, 29 stolen bases, no official at bats and a World Series championship.

Just looked him up.. as much a fluke they maintained this tactic. He was caught 16 times!! for a whopping 64% success rate.

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by travrosty

i dont think an entire season can be a fluke, give me the biggest fluke decade for any player. flukes are one day, one week maybe, something like that, a hot streak for a little while, not an entire season. you dont hit 191 rbi's in a season and its a fluke.

How about this line in the box score for a pitcher:

AB R H BI
Tony Cloninger P 5 2 3 9

which includes two grand slams.
(July 3, 1966 Braves beat the Giants 17-3)

[Sean]

If you want to talk about just one game: Rick Wise pitched a no-hitter and hit two home runs in the same game ( I think it was 1971).

[itjclarke]

Tuffy Rhodes and Kevin Elster hitting 3 HRs each on separate opening days. Both finished with fewer than 100. Elster hit his in the first game ever played at then PacBell Park, and was the only person until Pablo Sandoval (game 1 WS) to hit 3 in a single game at AT&T. Bonds never did it.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by Griffins

Ok, how about Fernando Tatis with 2 grand slams in an inning?
That was a one hour fluke.

Carlos Baerga's switch hit HR's in the same inning..

In 2003 Corey Patterson had 7 RBI's in MARCH.
Posada had 6 in March in '06.

Mark Whitten had 12 RBI in one game in '93, only 87 in the other games that season..

Ed Delehanty's 4 HR game in 1896, only had 9 in the other games.
Joe Adcock's 4 HR game in '54, only hit 19 in the other games..

Bob Horner had a 4 HR game in '86, his next ML season of '88 he hit a grand total of 3(in 60 games)

[novakjr]

NOW here's an awesome one..

In 1884 Pitcher Guy Hecker had a 3 HR game for Louisville(AA), and only 1 more in all other games that year(378 AB's) He had more HRs in that game, that he did shutouts(2) in 48 starts. His HR total in that game(3) was higher than his CAREER era(2.93) over 322 starts.

[Sean]

And as for a fluke poor performance, Enzo Hernandez had 549 at-bats with only 12 RBIs in 1971 (for San Diego).

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by novakjr

Bob Horner had a 4 HR game in '86, his next ML season of '88 he hit a grand total of 3(in 60 games)

I bought a stack of 24 of these Bob Horner cards in 1981 thinking they might be worth alot of money one day. Just checked ebay, no takers $1 a piece bin.

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[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Sean

And as for a fluke poor performance, Enzo Hernandez had 549 at-bats with only 12 RBIs in 1971 (for San Diego).

Duane Kuiper 1 HR (off the afore mentioned Steve Stone) in 3300+ career at bats.. no fluke, just no juice. Fellow No Cal-ers know he's an awesome play by play guy though.

[mrvster]

Thanks my Bro!!! I was set up to catch that striper.....the "fluke" is the flat fish I showed before(flounder- summer time they call them "fluke" here in NJ)...

I LOvE St. Croix!!! Bad Axx Rod....Love to see some fish pics...

jvanderbeck@verizon.net

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Sean

And as for a fluke poor performance, Enzo Hernandez had 549 at-bats with only 12 RBIs in 1971 (for San Diego).

I guess he was one of the reasons Nate Colbert drove in nearly 25% of his teams runs, by himself, a year after that.

Even Hack Wilson, in his 191 RBI season, only managed a 20% ratio.

[howard38]

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[Sean]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I guess he was one of the reasons Nate Colbert drove in nearly 25% of his teams runs, by himself, a year after that.

Even Hack Wilson, in his 191 RBI season, only managed a 20% ratio.

Dave, I was going to mention that season as well. I believe Colbert's pct. of RBI's for his team is still the highest ever.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by Griffins

Ok, how about Fernando Tatis with 2 grand slams in an inning?
That was a one hour fluke.

Similar to Harry Hooper with a lead off home run in both games of a double header. Considering how few DHs are played these days, it might never happen again.