Greatest fluke seasons

[travrosty]

i dont think an entire season can be a fluke, give me the biggest fluke decade for any player. flukes are one day, one week maybe, something like that, a hot streak for a little while, not an entire season. you dont hit 191 rbi's in a season and its a fluke.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by travrosty

i dont think an entire season can be a fluke, give me the biggest fluke decade for any player. flukes are one day, one week maybe, something like that, a hot streak for a little while, not an entire season. you dont hit 191 rbi's in a season and its a fluke.

I agree with this statement, with the exception being the 1986 Mets.

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By the way, Bob Welch has a great career winning percentage and had many 17 + W seasons.

[z28jd]

John Cassidy hit .378 in 1877, never hit higher than .277 in any of his other ten seasons, .246 career hitter

[itjclarke]

Gotta love Ned Williamson's 1884 season with 27 homeruns. He ended up with 64 homeruns, never reaching double figures during any of his other 12 seasons.

I guess a 186 foot LF fence and an 1884 rule change making balls hit over the fence HRs instead of ground rule doubles had a hand in this, but his is still pretty ridiculous stat line to look at.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Gotta love Ned Williamson's 1884 season with 27 homeruns. He ended up with 64 homeruns, never reaching double figures during any of his other 12 seasons.

I guess a 186 foot LF fence and an 1884 rule change making balls hit over the fence HRs instead of ground rule doubles had a hand in this, but his is still pretty ridiculous stat line to look at.

I just want to add that of Williamson's 27 home runs, 26 were hit at home, only 1 on the road.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Sean

I just want to add that of Williamson's 27 home runs, 26 were hit at home, only 1 on the road.

Dante Bichette and Vinny Castilla had nuthin on that guy.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by travrosty

i dont think an entire season can be a fluke, give me the biggest fluke decade for any player. flukes are one day, one week maybe, something like that, a hot streak for a little while, not an entire season. you dont hit 191 rbi's in a season and its a fluke.

OK, by this criteria, how about Shane Spencer at the end of 1998 for the Yanks.

Late call-up, career minor leaguer. No major league experience and finished the season 27 games, 10 HR's, 27 RBI's, .373 BA, 1.321 OPS, Beat up on the Rangers in his first playoff series.

Middling career after that. Probably only stayed in the major leagues the following six years, based on his reputation from that late season call-up.

[deebro041]

Phil Plantier 1993 SD, 34 hrs, 100 rbi's.

[MMarvelli]

Bob 'Hurricane' Hazle is remembered for his 1957 performance. He was called up from Wichita and did not play until the Braves' 100th game.
In less than three weeks he batted .473 with 5 home runs and 19 RBI in 14 games. That earned him the nickname "Hurricane." The original hurricane Hazel had struck the coast of Hazle's home state, South Carolina, in 1954.
The first-place Braves swept the second-place Cardinals on August 9–11, which went a long way towards sealing the National League pennant for Milwaukee; the first two games of the series were blowouts, and Hazle had seven hits and five RBI. He batted a torrid .556 in his first dozen games. For the season, Hazle batted .403 in only 41 games, with 7 home runs and 27 RBI. On the next-to-last day of the season, Hazle broke up a no-hit bid by Cincinnati's Johnny Klippstein with a two-out, eighth inning single.
The following year he played only 63 games (112 at-bats) for the Braves and Tigers and was finished.

[pepis]

Kevin Mass was a huge fluke for the yankees and an equal fluke to collectors
after becoming the 1st $20 rookie card in his current year of issue.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

OK, by this criteria, how about Shane Spencer at the end of 1998 for the Yanks.

Late call-up, career minor leaguer. No major league experience and finished the season 27 games, 10 HR's, 27 RBI's, .373 BA, 1.321 OPS, Beat up on the Rangers in his first playoff series.

Middling career after that. Probably only stayed in the major leagues the following six years, based on his reputation from that late season call-up.

For short spurt flukes.

Chris Shelton's start to 2006.. The guy had 9 HR's through the first 13 games.. At that point he was batting .471/.500/1.216. Yet managed to find himself back in the minors by the end of July.

Another full season one.

Fausto Carmona's(Roberto Hernandez Heredia) 2007 seems to stand out as well.. 19-8 3.06 era. In '06 he was 1-10 with a 5.42. In '08 he was 8-7 with a 5.44...To make things worse he followed that up with 5-12 with a 6.32 in '09..

On the bad luck side of the fence, I'd have to say Kevin Millwood's losing record in '05. He led the AL with a 2.86 era, yet only had a 9-11 record..And it's not like he was on a bad team, as the Indians were 93-69 that year.

[chris6net]

As a kid I remember looking at Bert Campaneris,s baseball card and his 22 home runs in 1970 stood out. He hit 79 home runs in 19 seasons but 22 in one year

[mybuddyinc]

........... one of my heroes ............

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[pclpads]

Originally Posted by travrosty

i dont think an entire season can be a fluke, give me the biggest fluke decade for any player. flukes are one day, one week maybe, something like that, a hot streak for a little while, not an entire season. you dont hit 191 rbi's in a season and its a fluke.

Johnny Vander Meer - journeyman pitcher, not close to being a HOFer, 119-121 record. But, back-to-back no-hitters in '38. Vander Meer! Not Hubbel. Not Grove. Not Gomez. Not Feller. And, hasn't been done since!

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Johnny Vander Meer - journeyman pitcher, not close to being a HOFer, 119-121 record. But, back-to-back no-hitters in '38. Vander Meer! Not Hubbel. Not Grove. Not Gomez. Not Feller. And, hasn't been done since!

Can't imagine that one ever being repeated

[Bored5000]

I have to go with Steve Carlton's 27-win season for a Phillies team that went 59-97 in 1972. Obviously, Carlton was a Hall of Fame pitcher entering the prime of his career. But it still seems really "flukey" that the team averaged more than seven tenths of a run higher in Carlton's 41 starts that season than in the other 115 games Carlton did not pitch.

The increased emphasis on SABRmetrics in recent years means that pitching wins aren't quite the be all and end all that they may have been in the past, but any modern pitcher winning 46 percent of his team's games in a given season is pretty flukey, IMO.

Carlton's win percentage that year was .730; the win percentage for the rest of the staff that year was .279.

[mrvster]

LOL!....I wish I had his moola....Id have a Wagner

[flavius]

Roctober

[boneheadandrube]

1914 Miracle Boston Braves? Anybody?
GB

[Griffins]

Originally Posted by travrosty

i dont think an entire season can be a fluke, give me the biggest fluke decade for any player. flukes are one day, one week maybe, something like that, a hot streak for a little while, not an entire season. you dont hit 191 rbi's in a season and its a fluke.

Ok, how about Fernando Tatis with 2 grand slams in an inning?
That was a one hour fluke.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by Griffins

Ok, how about Fernando Tatis with 2 grand slams in an inning?
That was a one hour fluke.

Carlos Baerga's switch hit HR's in the same inning..

In 2003 Corey Patterson had 7 RBI's in MARCH.
Posada had 6 in March in '06.

Mark Whitten had 12 RBI in one game in '93, only 87 in the other games that season..

Ed Delehanty's 4 HR game in 1896, only had 9 in the other games.
Joe Adcock's 4 HR game in '54, only hit 19 in the other games..

Bob Horner had a 4 HR game in '86, his next ML season of '88 he hit a grand total of 3(in 60 games)

[novakjr]

NOW here's an awesome one..

In 1884 Pitcher Guy Hecker had a 3 HR game for Louisville(AA), and only 1 more in all other games that year(378 AB's) He had more HRs in that game, that he did shutouts(2) in 48 starts. His HR total in that game(3) was higher than his CAREER era(2.93) over 322 starts.

[Sean]

And as for a fluke poor performance, Enzo Hernandez had 549 at-bats with only 12 RBIs in 1971 (for San Diego).

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Sean

And as for a fluke poor performance, Enzo Hernandez had 549 at-bats with only 12 RBIs in 1971 (for San Diego).

Duane Kuiper 1 HR (off the afore mentioned Steve Stone) in 3300+ career at bats.. no fluke, just no juice. Fellow No Cal-ers know he's an awesome play by play guy though.

[mrvster]

Thanks my Bro!!! I was set up to catch that striper.....the "fluke" is the flat fish I showed before(flounder- summer time they call them "fluke" here in NJ)...

I LOvE St. Croix!!! Bad Axx Rod....Love to see some fish pics...

jvanderbeck@verizon.net

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Sean

And as for a fluke poor performance, Enzo Hernandez had 549 at-bats with only 12 RBIs in 1971 (for San Diego).

I guess he was one of the reasons Nate Colbert drove in nearly 25% of his teams runs, by himself, a year after that.

Even Hack Wilson, in his 191 RBI season, only managed a 20% ratio.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I guess he was one of the reasons Nate Colbert drove in nearly 25% of his teams runs, by himself, a year after that.

Even Hack Wilson, in his 191 RBI season, only managed a 20% ratio.

Dave, I was going to mention that season as well. I believe Colbert's pct. of RBI's for his team is still the highest ever.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by novakjr

Bob Horner had a 4 HR game in '86, his next ML season of '88 he hit a grand total of 3(in 60 games)

I bought a stack of 24 of these Bob Horner cards in 1981 thinking they might be worth alot of money one day. Just checked ebay, no takers $1 a piece bin.

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[tschock]

Originally Posted by Griffins

Ok, how about Fernando Tatis with 2 grand slams in an inning?
That was a one hour fluke.

Similar to Harry Hooper with a lead off home run in both games of a double header. Considering how few DHs are played these days, it might never happen again.

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by travrosty

i dont think an entire season can be a fluke, give me the biggest fluke decade for any player. flukes are one day, one week maybe, something like that, a hot streak for a little while, not an entire season. you dont hit 191 rbi's in a season and its a fluke.

How about this line in the box score for a pitcher:

AB R H BI
Tony Cloninger P 5 2 3 9

which includes two grand slams.
(July 3, 1966 Braves beat the Giants 17-3)

[Sean]

If you want to talk about just one game: Rick Wise pitched a no-hitter and hit two home runs in the same game ( I think it was 1971).

[itjclarke]

Tuffy Rhodes and Kevin Elster hitting 3 HRs each on separate opening days. Both finished with fewer than 100. Elster hit his in the first game ever played at then PacBell Park, and was the only person until Pablo Sandoval (game 1 WS) to hit 3 in a single game at AT&T. Bonds never did it.

[howard38]

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