The downfall of the PSA boards.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Please point out specifically what you're talking about. It looks like an 86 to me all day long. If you do't think it's an 86, what do you think it is?

David- can you not see the rounded bottom right corner?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

David- can you not see the rounded bottom right corner?

Yes, Kevin, I see that rounded bottom right corner.

Again, if you don't think it's an 86, what do you think it should have graded?

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

If you want clarification, why don't you give me a call? 229-630-1686....

No thanks I would assume you would have the "nuts" to simply clear here publicly since you made the comment.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

No thanks I would assume you would have the "nuts" to simply clear here publicly since you made the comment.

John- that's what I figured.....

[TNP777]

can we please get back on topic and mock the PSA boards and its migrating members?

[wonkaticket]

What are you the riddler? Figured what you made a comment I said please clarify...

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

What are you the riddler? Figured what you made a comment I said please clarify...

Why dont you grow a set? 229-630-1686....

[DerekMichael]

Hi guys. I am not taking sides, or anything like that, but I was actually hoping for some honest opinions on this one card in particular, because I found the grade to be seriously absurd. I saw it the the other day and was actually hoping for some feedback from the pros on this one.

Mr. Mize, I know you have a seriously fine eye for corners and high grade pieces in general, but wouldnt a stain of this magnitude be grounds for a serious docking of the grade?

I am just curious as to everyones opinion on a piece like this, and I figured this would be a good thread to ask.

I feel like I am not grasping the staining aspect of a card when it is being graded.

Thank You.

[DerekMichael]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350694389007...84.m1423.l2649

[wonkaticket]

Kevin it’s not about fear it’s about not wasting too much of my time jawing with you over nothing. I barely see the need to talk to you in this thread much longer let alone call you. I’m sure your lonely, I get it but perhaps e-harmony or something is a better option for you? You can always “bump” your profile should you not get any responses right away.

Kevin, I won’t take any more of your time. Besides I’m sure you have countless BST threads to bump on insanely undergraded low pop cards. Along with a night filled with outing other members cards that you feel are trimmed or overgraded. Keep up the good fight.

Hugs & Kisses

John

[Leon]

Originally Posted by DerekMichael

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350694389007...84.m1423.l2649

flesh wound

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Kevin it’s not about fear it’s about not wasting too much of my time jawing with you over nothing. I barely see the need to talk to you in this thread much longer let alone call you. I’m sure your lonely, I get it but perhaps e-harmony or something is a better option for you? You can always “bump” your profile should you not get any responses right away.

Kevin, I won’t take any more of your time. Besides I’m sure you have countless BST threads to bump on insanely undergraded low pop cards. Along with a night filled with outing other members cards that you feel are trimmed or overgraded. Keep up the good fight.

Hugs & Kisses

John

Still no call, can you say "no balls"?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by DerekMichael

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350694389007...84.m1423.l2649

It was probably swapped out

[HRBAKER]

I think you are allowed one coffee stain per submission.
Sure looks overgraded to me.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by DerekMichael

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350694389007...84.m1423.l2649

Derek- I agree with you on this one, no doubt. I am very surprised it sold for what it did....

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

I think you are allowed one coffee stain per submission.
Sure looks overgraded to me.

+1

[DerekMichael]

Originally Posted by Leon

flesh wound

Lol.
Mr. Luckey,

I would actually be very curious as to your opinion on this one in particular. Personally, I do not care about grades too much, and I do not know if you do, but what do you make of this?

I have seen a card get docked heavily for a small amount of paper loss on the back, and I would like to use this one particular example if I may:

http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=8289

The only real flaw on this Waddell that I can see is a small amount of paper loss on the back. I truly find the fact these cards (the Bresnahan I posted above and the Waddell) are considered "equals" in terms of condition to be nothing short of offensive.

Maybe I am wrong here, but I just do not get it.

I would truly appreciate your opinion on this subject, as these are just a few examples.

Thank You Mr. Luckey, and to anyone else who would like to give their opinion.

Derek

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Kevin, I won’t take any more of your time. Besides I’m sure you have countless BST threads to bump on insanely undergraded low pop cards. Along with a night filled with outing other members cards that you feel are trimmed or overgraded. Keep up the good fight.

Hugs & Kisses

John

Now that's funny.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Mikehealer

Now that's funny.

Mike- I was wondering when you would chime in! Boy I've missed you!

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Still no call, can you say "no balls"?

Use your giant manhood and publicly clarify your comment…or should I say “what I figured”?

Again why do I have to call you? Are we pals now?

[HRBAKER]

Technically I think the Hindu is overgraded by 2 grades. Might have brought as much in a 2 holder bc of the lack of severity of the damage??

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Use your giant manhood and publicly clarify your comment…or should I say “what I figured”?

Again why do I have to call you? Are we pals now?

Still figures, no call...By the way John, have you ever wore a jock strap? Just curious....

[DerekMichael]

Thank you Jeff. May I ask, if you feel the Waddell is over graded by 2 whole points, then how many points was the Bresnahan over graded?

In my honest opinion, the eye appeal and preservation of the Waddell card just destroys the Bresnahan beyond any words I can even communicate. There is just no comparison in my eyes as to which piece is by far superior.

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Technically I think the Hindu is overgraded by 2 grades. Might have brought as much in a 2 holder bc of the lack of severity of the damage??

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by DerekMichael

Thank you Jeff. May I ask, if you feel the Waddell is over graded by 2 whole points, then how many points was the Bresnahan over graded?

In my honest opinion, the eye appeal and preservation of the Waddell card just destroys the Bresnahan beyond any words I can even communicate. There is just no comparison in my eyes as to which piece is by far superior.

I'm no grader (I don't have the qualifications). If I had that Bresnahan raw and listed it on the BST I would grade it F/G at best. It has a huge stain on it. In terms of comparatives, while I would grade the Waddell a technical 2, it is a beautiful 2. No comparison, but what do I know.

[DerekMichael]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

I'm no grader (I don't have the qualifications). If I had that Bresnahan raw and listed it on the BST I would grade it F/G at best. It has a huge stain on it. In terms of comparatives, while I would grade the Waddell a technical 2, it is a beautiful 2. No comparison, but what do I know.

You know enough to know that there is no comparison, and that is good enough for me.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Still figures, no call...By the way John, have you ever wore a jock strap? Just curious....

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

I love it, I'm getting to you....by the way, still no call? has all your hair gone?

[CMIZ5290]

Well John, Who would have thought you wouldn't call? How about the whole world! It's amazing how much hot air you have in you while you hide behind a computer. I have only been on this forum for a while, but I have seen and talked to others that you "have differences with" and now I truly know what they meant. You have actually told me about different members "not to do business with". By the way, dont you have the balls to call? I've been waiting...

[wazoo]

This is more enjoyable than a teenage Facebook fight.

[Jlighter]

I think this clip sums up this fight pretty well.

[wonkaticket]

Impossible Kevin my hair was gone long before you. Business, life and taxes beat you too it.

Besides if you were getting to me. I would have to follow your lead and send you long rambling PM’s like the below.

“How ironic for him(Dan McKee) to unload on me calling me a joke in the hobby and a pussy to boot, when I was questioning one of his cards. But yet, he is always unloading on people about their supposedly trimmed cards. I guess he gets a free pass. Pertaining T206 collectors, my collection is probably in the top 5 of NET54 members and if some members find me aggressive, so be it. I do think I know just a little bit about T206s.” Kevin Mize

You remember the PM’s over McKee when he called you bad names over you declaring his card trimmed. You remember this thread the one that backfired on you calling folks cards over graded again from your computer screen.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=158200

No Kevin you’re loveable and fun because you have so much to prove to everyone I could never be mad at you. Besides how can anyone be mad at a top 5 collector.

Oh and Kevin no means no I don't need to call you..I think you can tuck yourself in tonight.

John

P.S. Again what did i say wrong to you to bring up my nuts....oh that's right I didn't think you could just pop PSA 7's into SGC 96's so easily.

[CMIZ5290]

Still waiting on the call John...You are letting me down, but then again, who didn't expect that? You are a pussy and everyone knows it. Again, the number is 229-630-1686 for the sixth time. I thought you emailed me saying you would be glad to air differences?? Dont tell me you got amnesia....

[CMIZ5290]

Good night John, times up.....

[wonkaticket]

“Dont tell me you got amnesia”

Yeah I tend to forget things that have never happened sorry Kevin LOL you know how us "pussies" are. We have no differences Kevin that need to be cleared by phone/email were not hobby friends who had a falling out. To have a falling out that needs phone calls/emails to clear up one party has to mean something to the other person to begin with…on my end I checked…I’m good.

You latched onto me in that McKee thread and haven’t let go. Kind of creepy/sad you want me to call you so badly because I disagree with you that PSA 7's easily become SGC 96's. if that's the case I will look for all the SGC 96's in the BST from you in the coming weeks.

Is nobody loving you tonight Kevin is that why you want to talk?

[freakhappy]

Lionel Ritchie<----the dude

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

Lionel Ritchie<----the dude

Correction: Jeff Bridges is THE DUDE.

[wonkaticket]

+1

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Correction: Jeff Bridges is THE DUDE.

Lionel Ritchie = The first coming of "The Dude"

Jeff Bridges = The second coming of "The Dude"



The difference is...Lionel actually performs, where Jeff had to act to be the dude.

[Jaybird]

[wonkaticket]

Triple Dude...is that like Double Rainbow?

[DerekMichael]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Triple Dude...is that like Double Rainbow?

I just have to say, my friend showed me this video a couple of summers ago, and I laughed so hard it physically hurt me.

If you have not watched this guy, you should check it out. He is SO happy.

[teetwoohsix]

[sdkammeyer]

Nice cards Clayton. I noticed they are both "seated" and I assume that has a bit to do with it ..... I'm not sure I have any "seated" ...... but I can share a whole team standing/sitting around for the hell of it

[whitehse]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Still waiting on the call John...You are letting me down, but then again, who didn't expect that? You are a pussy and everyone knows it. Again, the number is 229-630-1686 for the sixth time. I thought you emailed me saying you would be glad to air differences?? Dont tell me you got amnesia....

I find it ironic that in a thread that highlights the downfall of the PSA boards because of silly posters and attacks on each other would have a post such as this.

Maybe the newbies shouldnt be the only one's to be asked to sit back, watch and learn before posting with abandon!

[wonkaticket]

Well Andrew in his defense I did disagree with him on something.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by sdkammeyer

Nice cards Clayton. I noticed they are both "seated" and I assume that has a bit to do with it ..... I'm not sure I have any "seated" ...... but I can share a whole team standing/sitting around for the hell of it

Thanks Steve~ beautiful Detroit PC !!! Great image.
I was just screwing around, figured I'd throw a couple of cards in the mix.

Sincerely, Clayton

[freakhappy]

It looks like Mike and Jake have front row seats...where did the action go???

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

It looks like Mike and Jake have front row seats...where did the action go???

I don't know but this is a bizarre thread.

Sincerely, Clayton

[bigfish]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Still figures, no call...By the way John, have you ever wore a jock strap? Just curious....

I really feel like this is an important question John.... #@$#@#

[sdkammeyer]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

Thanks Steve~ beautiful Detroit PC !!! Great image.

Thank you as always. MUCH respect.