The downfall of the PSA boards.

[insidethewrapper]

Look at these 2 PSA submissions ( A) and ( 10 ). Guess what dealer is selling the (10). It's on ebay now.

[bobbyw8469]

If not for Scott's comments on this thread I may have jumped out the window at the end of the first page. Please keep them coming.

Darn it - I wish Scott had stayed away...one can only hope! (j/k)

[ullmandds]

Mike...nice evidence...it is such crap...its like the fed reserve printing money for their friends!!!

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Darn it - I wish Scott had stayed away...one can only hope! (j/k)

I'm leaving. Someone go nail Jeff's window shut.

[ullmandds]

Totally agree with John on this one... PSA is notorious for over grading. Kevin I kind of remember You dumping a whole load of PSA vg/ex's That were totally over graded... Most of those would have dropped one or two or three tiers on SGC?

[CMIZ5290]

Peter/John- sorry you guys disagree, but I can send you a bunch of scans on SGC graded cards that are incredibly overgraded...I just dont see it with PSA, it's almost like some of you guys lost a ton of money on PSA stock! Also, for the record Peter, I have never had a bunch of PSA 4's that I unloaded, no clue where that's coming from as I dont even collect lower grades...would love to see those as I have never,ever had a ton of 4's....

[wonkaticket]

No stock in any TPG or love hate for either. Picked SGC because I liked the holders, the people and they are close to me. They also do a good job too.

Just saying in my experience I have had equal from both guys SGC and PSA. In my stacks of PSA I have a lot of cards that would never cross to SGC at their current grade due to things like minor paper loss missed, creases, marks etc. Things that sadly for my cross attempts SGC does not miss.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I can send you a bunch of scans on SGC graded cards that are incredibly overgraded.

I'd like to see one. Just one. It has to be something that we can all agree is overgraded (paper loss, pin holes, etc), not just your opinion that it's overgraded. I'll go first. Here is a PSA 6 with paper loss. Probably should have graded no higher than a 2 (overgraded by 4 grades). Either way, I think we can both agree it's not a 6.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'd like to see one. Just one. It has to be something that we can all agree is overgraded (paper loss, pin holes, etc), not just your opinion that it's overgraded. I'll go first. Here is a PSA 6 with paper loss. Probably should have graded no higher than a 2 (overgraded by 4 grades). Either way, I think we can both agree it's not a 6.

David- what about corner wear? Isn't that important?? SGC is a joke when it comes to this....

[dog*dirt]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'd like to see one. Just one. It has to be something that we can all agree is overgraded (paper loss, pin holes, etc), not just your opinion that it's overgraded. I'll go first. Here is a PSA 6 with paper loss. Probably should have graded no higher than a 2 (overgraded by 4 grades). Either way, I think we can both agree it's not a 6.

David,

I have heard the PSA is more forgiving on paper loss. Here is another example...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T-206-SWEET-...51222833544?pt