T206 Distribution? Where'd they go, and when?

[Abravefan11]

1) It wasn't so much that ATC added additional factories that distributed the cards, but rather included the distribution of the cards with more brands as the set progressed. For example brands like Lenox and Uzit didn't include cards until the last of the T206's were printed. But they were distributed out of the same factory (No.30) as some of the first Sweet Caporal cards issued in the set. Some brands were added during the sets printing like Polar Bear that was a new factory. And towards the end ATC did shift the distribution of cards included in American Beauty, Piedmont and Sweet Caporal to factory 42.

2) The factory a brand was distributed out of wasn't necessarily where that product would be sold or the most popular. (Jon Canfield can speak about this much better than I.) Hindu's were issued out of factory No.649 in New York, but their popularity was throughout the south. Sovereign's were issued out of factory No.25 in Richmond, but were popular up north in areas like New York.

3) I have not seen a direct connection between a brand, where it was popular, and which players were selected to be included with that product. In many cases there are examples of the same groups of subjects being printed and distributed with multiple brands.

Should have clarified better. I was talking about the T205 set. Theres a difference in the 2 with when and how things were done due to the separation of the ATC in 1911.

[Abravefan11]

Jimi - I put this together and maybe it will help. This list isn't the exact order the cards were distributed in, but a general grouping of when they were produced and the factories they were distributed from.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

Jimi - I put this together and maybe it will help. This list isn't the exact order the cards were distributed in, but a general grouping of when they were produced and the factories they were distributed from.

Thank you, Jim

I was going to bring up the 1910 (only) issue of the Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb card.

Furthermore, the following cards were printed and issued ONLY in circa Spring of 1911......

AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 f42
PIEDMONT 460 f42
SWEET CAP 460 f42 (overprint)
SWEET CAP 460 f42
UZIT


TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Furthermore, the following cards were printed and issued ONLY in circa Spring of 1911......

AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 f42
PIEDMONT 460 f42
SWEET CAP 460 f42 (overprint)
SWEET CAP 460 f42
UZIT


TED Z

It's my opinion that the 460 series cards were printed in the latter part of 1910 into early 1911. So on the generalized list above, I used the dates 1910-11 for all 460 series brands.

If I were to date specifically the brands issued out of factory 42, I still wouldn't rule out cards being distributed from that factory in late 1910. In mid October 1910 ATC announced they were moving the manufacturing of several brands, including Piedmont, to their factory in Durham. At the same time they were moving their export brands from Durham to Petersburg.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

It's my opinion that the 460 series cards were printed in the latter part of 1910 into early 1911. So on the generalized list above, I used the dates 1910-11 for all 460 series brands.

If I were to date specifically the brands issued out of factory 42, I still wouldn't rule out cards being distributed from that factory in late 1910. In mid October 1910 ATC announced they were moving the manufacturing of several brands, including Piedmont, to their factory in Durham. At the same time they were moving their export brands from Durham to Petersburg.

Tim

I totally agree with you that the 46 subjects of the 460-only series were printed sometime in mid-to-late 1910; and, issued with Factory 25,
Factory 30, Factory 6, and Factory 17 backs during 1910.

But, the Factory 42 cards and the UZIT are circa early Spring 1911. American Lithographic ledger records reveal to us of the issuance of UZIT
T206's in Feb-Mar 1911.



Regarding the Ty Cobb Tin, a 1912 tax stamp on it tells us nothing about the Ty Cobb card. I do not think that any proof has emerged that
this very unique card was ever in the Tin. Tobacco stains on some cards, notwithstanding.
These stains were most likely placed on these cards by the guys who used the this Cut Plug product for chewing or pipe smoking.


TED Z