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Old 12-11-2012, 05:27 AM
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Jimi - I put this together and maybe it will help. This list isn't the exact order the cards were distributed in, but a general grouping of when they were produced and the factories they were distributed from.

Thank you, Jim

I was going to bring up the 1910 (only) issue of the Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb card.

Furthermore, the following cards were printed and issued ONLY in circa Spring of 1911......

AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 f42
PIEDMONT 460 f42
SWEET CAP 460 f42 (overprint)
SWEET CAP 460 f42
UZIT


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Furthermore, the following cards were printed and issued ONLY in circa Spring of 1911......

AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 f42
PIEDMONT 460 f42
SWEET CAP 460 f42 (overprint)
SWEET CAP 460 f42
UZIT


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It's my opinion that the 460 series cards were printed in the latter part of 1910 into early 1911. So on the generalized list above, I used the dates 1910-11 for all 460 series brands.

If I were to date specifically the brands issued out of factory 42, I still wouldn't rule out cards being distributed from that factory in late 1910. In mid October 1910 ATC announced they were moving the manufacturing of several brands, including Piedmont, to their factory in Durham. At the same time they were moving their export brands from Durham to Petersburg.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:21 AM
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It's my opinion that the 460 series cards were printed in the latter part of 1910 into early 1911. So on the generalized list above, I used the dates 1910-11 for all 460 series brands.

If I were to date specifically the brands issued out of factory 42, I still wouldn't rule out cards being distributed from that factory in late 1910. In mid October 1910 ATC announced they were moving the manufacturing of several brands, including Piedmont, to their factory in Durham. At the same time they were moving their export brands from Durham to Petersburg.
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I totally agree with you that the 46 subjects of the 460-only series were printed sometime in mid-to-late 1910; and, issued with Factory 25,
Factory 30, Factory 6, and Factory 17 backs during 1910.

But, the Factory 42 cards and the UZIT are circa early Spring 1911. American Lithographic ledger records reveal to us of the issuance of UZIT
T206's in Feb-Mar 1911.



Regarding the Ty Cobb Tin, a 1912 tax stamp on it tells us nothing about the Ty Cobb card. I do not think that any proof has emerged that
this very unique card was ever in the Tin. Tobacco stains on some cards, notwithstanding.
These stains were most likely placed on these cards by the guys who used the this Cut Plug product for chewing or pipe smoking.


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