T205 Freaks

[bn2cardz]

I picked up these two cards in recent weeks.

this was already shown earlier in the thread:

...and this one:


The Flynn didn't seem like a printing incident because it seemed to flow with the wrinkles/creases and you can see it in some of the loss of the gold. Then I received the Beck and saw that it, too, showed pink in the gold loss also. If these aren't printing freaks they look like they could have happened at the same time. The Beck convinces me more that the Flynn may also be one.

So what happened did some magenta spill onto the press?

[Jaybird]

I agree that these look stained well after printing. The fact that the pink is visible where the gold has worn off on the edges and is a deeper color in the creases is a major clue.

Somebody spilled something on them after they were well-loved.

[bn2cardz]

That was my opinion too Jay. Then I got confused because it looked like the magenta seemed to be under parts of some printing and the straight lines of some of the edges.

The crease on they Flynn is the biggest indicator that it was done afterwards, but then I thought maybe it looks darker because the under media got so soaked, and now that the under coating is showing it looks darker there.

[Leon]

Can cross off a blank back....Thanks BST and Scott B...

[bn2cardz]

This card seems to have a RED Sweet Caporal transfer on the front of Gasper. Yet the reverse is a black Sweet Caporal reverse.

This may be hard to see on some monitors, but if your monitor has great contrast you should see what I am trying to show. The name may be hard to make out above his head, but the border should be very obvious going through the top gold.

[EvilKing00]

some of those are just awesome, thanks for sharing! anyone have any more? or even better, are any for sale?

[Exhibitman]

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

some of those are just awesome, thanks for sharing! anyone have any more? or even better, are any for sale?

I have some great miscuts FS. PM me an email and I will send you pics.

[rdwyer]

Couple more:

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I picked up these two cards in recent weeks.

this was already shown earlier in the thread:

...and this one:


The Flynn didn't seem like a printing incident because it seemed to flow with the wrinkles/creases and you can see it in some of the loss of the gold. Then I received the Beck and saw that it, too, showed pink in the gold loss also. If these aren't printing freaks they look like they could have happened at the same time. The Beck convinces me more that the Flynn may also be one.

So what happened did some magenta spill onto the press?

Originally Posted by Jaybird

I agree that these look stained well after printing. The fact that the pink is visible where the gold has worn off on the edges and is a deeper color in the creases is a major clue.

Somebody spilled something on them after they were well-loved.

I had conceded that this was a stain after the fact, UNTIL I was looking at the scans again today.

I noticed that the Darker Yellow seems to avoid the pink. The pink over flow is very dark on the surrounding spots but not on where the yellow was laid down. I am now starting to think the reason it shows on the crease so much is because the white paper is showing through that was soaked heavily by the pink somewhere during the printing process (maybe a spill) then when the rest of the plates printed their respective colors it pushed the ink out of the way and printed on top of it this would also explain how it halos the head so well, but crackles on the face area.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I had conceded that this was a stain after the fact, UNTIL I was looking at the scans again today.

I noticed that the Darker Yellow seems to avoid the pink. The pink over flow is very dark on the surrounding spots but not on where the yellow was laid down. I am now starting to think the reason it shows on the crease so much is because the white paper is showing through that was soaked heavily by the pink somewhere during the printing process (maybe a spill) then when the rest of the plates printed their respective colors it pushed the ink out of the way and printed on top of it this would also explain how it halos the head so well, but crackles on the face area.

So what you are saying is that the card stock was damaged prior to being printed? The pink ink was spilled in the middle of the process and the other colors laid over it? This would have not made it into production or would it? A fine line between scrap and just a card with some extra ink on it. Ones worthless and the other is priceless. Go figure. I am no T205 expert so I will let those guys chime in when they can

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

So what you are saying is that the card stock was damaged prior to being printed? The pink ink was spilled in the middle of the process and the other colors laid over it? This would have not made it into production or would it? A fine line between scrap and just a card with some extra ink on it. Ones worthless and the other is priceless. Go figure. I am no T205 expert so I will let those guys chime in when they can

I really don't know. Like I said I had conceded that it happened after printing because I only looked at the fact that some of the white where there was paper loss from heavy creasing was now pink. It wasn't until I really looked at the rest of the pattern left by the pink that I realized that it seems impossible for a "spill" to miss certain things they way it just happens to perfectly outline the head. Again, to me it is strange that it would stain the light yellow but not seem to effect the darker yellow (though point sampling in PS does show that there was an alteration made to the color).

[bn2cardz]

Miscut showing the factory number on top, and the bottom of the top card on the front.

[Mrc32]

Andy- That is a neat one. Congrats.