New T205 Website with Master Checklist

[T205Guy]

Ron,

Thanks! I am sure that the site will be a hit and I will be glad to add whatever I can to help out...

Ed

[Runscott]

There wasn't a good, comprehensive T205 site on the web. Ron wanted to get one going. I get it. The T205 crowd is notorious for hiding their cards. Hearing them speak out now is at least hearing them speak.

I did something similar with billiards history over ten years ago, at a time when I didn't really know all that much, and I requested experts to contribute. Some did, some were offended - offended that they knew more than me but didn't have the initiative to gather their information and create a usable site. But, even mute, they were still afraid I would make money off information that they weren't able to. I didn't...either did they. We're all still broke

Everyone (except that little girl) likes more money. Greed is part of what makes America....America. Perhaps Ron is simply someone who love T205's and has no plans to advertise on his site - there are sites out there with no advertising that provide plenty of reward for their creators (none of my sites make a dime). But if he tries to make money and gives contributors credit (or a cut), I don't see the problem. You create your own reputation through your actions, as we've seen with other card websites.

[edhans]

The T205 crowd is notorious for hiding their cards.

Really? The three "T205 guys" that come most readily to my mind (Matt & Turner, Josh and Andrew; OK 4 guys) have always been free with information and pictures on this site, at least. Who are you referring to?

[Runscott]

Ed, I'm not going to go there. It was a generalization which you are of course free to disagree with.

I do understand (from personal experience) any tendency to protect one's own intellectual capital - when you share your own research in good faith, (or don't share and it's pilfered) you can end up unpleasantly surprised as to how it's used. I admittedly am sitting on quite a bit of research that I would have shared ten years ago, but more recent experience has shown me the folly of such an attitude.

[edhans]

Scott,
No quarrel with your stance on your intellectual property. Just found it odd that you singled out T205 collectors as reticent, when the folks I mentioned have always been generous in sharing their knowledge.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by edhans

Scott,
No quarrel with your stance on your intellectual property. Just found it odd that you singled out T205 collectors as reticent, when the folks I mentioned have always been generous in sharing their knowledge.

I got that, and I'm still not going there (with names)

Edited to add - overall, the nuances, numbers, etc., of the t205 set have not been discussed in near as much detail as t206's (even relative to the popularity, collectibility of the two sets);i.e-overall, T206 collectors have been much more willing to share their set's secrets. This isn't a negative comment on any T205 collectors, it's simply what I've noticed. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong - it's still not meant to be demeaning of anyone so I don't see the problem with me stating this opinion.

[Big Six]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I got that, and I'm still not going there (with names)

Edited to add - overall, the nuances, numbers, etc., of the t205 set have not been discussed in near as much detail as t206's (even relative to the popularity, collectibility of the two sets);i.e-overall, T206 collectors have been much more willing to share their set's secrets. This isn't a negative comment on any T205 collectors, it's simply what I've noticed. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong - it's still not meant to be demeaning of anyone so I don't see the problem with me stating this opinion.

No need to apologize, Scott...I agree. T206 posts grossly outnumber t205 posts and check out the b/s/t...very few for sale. There's a fraction of the information on t205s versus what's out there for t206s...