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Old 11-02-2012, 06:21 PM
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Sure.....will get comments in regard to price and authenticity.....
The price for everything is $1500, the authenticity would be the "appraisal" at this point. I trust knowledge veteran collectors over TPA's any day...
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:53 PM
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Gutierrez is a reputable and well known autograph expert. He was an authenticator for PSA/DNA and MastroNet and currently works for Heritage. I know he's done appraisals for the Babe Herman estate and the Pete Rozelle estate.

I'd say it's good if a collection comes with a document from him.

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Old 11-02-2012, 07:30 PM
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Gutierrez is a reputable and well known autograph expert. He was an authenticator for PSA/DNA and MastroNet and currently works for Heritage. I know he's done appraisals for the Babe Herman estate and the Pete Rozelle estate.

I'd say it's good if a collection comes with a document from him.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:31 PM
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He was an authenticator for psa, global and is now for jsa.

i would pass on his authentications and look for other opinions, but thats my personal view.

I think he has more baggage than southwest airlines.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:36 PM
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FWIW, I would not feel comfortable adding that Erving to my collection.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:49 PM
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He was an authenticator for psa, global and is now for jsa.

i would pass on his authentications and look for other opinions, but thats my personal view.

I think he has more baggage than southwest airlines.
PSA will be in town next Saturday, so it pays to pick up the stuff if it is authentic, because at that point I can pay for the increase in market value for ebay and save on shipping.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:01 PM
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PSA will be in town next Saturday, so it pays to pick up the stuff if it is authentic, because at that point I can pay for the increase in market value for ebay and save on shipping.


here;s some advice, if you pay for psa authentication and some stuff fails, then you lose money. also a lot of these autos are plentiful, and psa authentication isnt going to gain you a lot. and thats my two cents. wait for a lot more opinions on some of these autographs.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:08 PM
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I've never had a problem with MG. However, I believe this is his signature on this authentication, where he blows it on Joe Giard. I have been trying to reach JSA all week, with zero response, to get this corrected. Does anyone have a way to reach them??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251175243883...84.m1423.l2649

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I didn't really see anything worth the money to get a TPA on, especially if you are going to sell on eBay.
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Old 11-02-2012, 08:54 PM
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If someone had the letters t, p and a in his name, Travis would recommend against him.

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Old 11-02-2012, 10:23 PM
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No way on the Sugar Ray, not even a close miss.
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The Ray Robinson looks horrible.
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If someone had the letters t, p and a in his name, Travis would recommend against him.



not true, i have always said that a third party authentication system could work, just not the way it is being done now.

as we see with the sugar ray robinson, why reward that type of authentication. i am for competant authentication. if they quit pretending they knew all genres and categories and stuck to what they do know, maybe it would get better.

but you are correct, i haven't been too enthralled or impressed with what we have now. But that's not my fault.

they need a customer bill of rights.

1. you should be able to know just who looked at your autograph and only that person shoudl sign off on the cert.

2. they should show exemplars, especially when asked to back up their opinion.

3. when they make a mistake, own up to it, admit it, take care of it and make it right.

4. slow down and take more time to authenticate autographs, get more opinions, issue more no opinions when you dont know instead of guessing (51% percent system of authenticating sucks)

5. hire more people, get more specialized experts instead of one guy authetnicating 50 different categories with tens of thousands of different names.

6. stick to the hof'ers, major stars and other notables and quit trying to expand to authenticate every c league south american soccer team. Stick to the basics and get the basics right first.

there is a lot more i could add.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:37 AM
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I agree with a number of your points, Travis
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