Signed by Rocky Marciano or an elaborate hoax?

[travrosty]

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[Exhibitman]

Don't know about the sigs but the blanket statement re the availability of permanent ink felt tips is wrong. Permanent ink felt tips were invented in the 1950s and were widely marketed under the "Magic Marker" brand by the early 1960s. They were state of the art for the advertising industry by the late 1960s and sold in stationary stores. My mom was in advertising at the time and I recall going to her office as a little boy and being set up in the art department to play with the hundreds of markers. And trust me, I know from experience that they wrote on everything: walls, doors, floors...

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Don't know about the sigs but the blanket statement re the availability of permanent ink felt tips is wrong. Permanent ink felt tips were invented in the 1950s and were widely marketed under the "Magic Marker" brand by the early 1960s. They were state of the art for the advertising industry by the late 1960s and sold in stationary stores. My mom was in advertising at the time and I recall going to her office as a little boy and being set up in the art department to play with the hundreds of markers. And trust me, I know from experience that they wrote on everything: walls, doors, floors...

pay attention, i didnt say they werent available, i said they just werent used for signing autographs. people just didnt think of it. sharpies were invented in the 1960's but were hardly ever used until the 1980's

[travrosty]

i conversed with ken and he changed the wording and he is generally concerned about the glove and wants accuracy above everything else. many times in the past i have been brushed off by auction houses, but not by ken.

[RichardSimon]

I turn down about half the items offered to me to authenticate because they are signatures that I am not familiar with and I cannot render an opinion on them.
But the money grubbers at PSA would never do that, they prove it every time they look at a boxing autograph.
This is hardly the first time they have screwed up boxing.
Hey PSA - just say no. Your reputation is getting bashed here, was it worth it?

[JimStinson]

I personally was not trying to bash anyone, In fact everyone makes mistakes.
But the information I mentioned in this thread has been out there for a LONG LONG time and if ANYONE is going to charge good money for an expert opinion take an extra few minutes to do it right

[cubsfan-budman]

If I pay my CPA to do my taxes, I don't pay him to guess.

I know there's some art to authenticating, but if there's any question, they should pass and not take the money (or at least less, to pay for their time).

The examples given above may be chosen to "lead", but even a novice would realize that the "authenticated" examples are trash. It's particularly evident when comparing them to Marciano's trainer's version of the sig.