Of Blue OLD MILL T206's....and such

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I just have one last question and this will be my last post on this subject.

Experts on the board who looked at the card at the National, were you aware the Old Mill cards were reprinted with blue backs when you looked at the card?

[E93]

Can somebody line up the reprint blue old mill with the Walsh for comparison. If they are obviously different in proportions, that would lead to the conclusion that the Walsh did not come from the same press run as the other reprint.
JimB
P.S. A scan rather than photo would be helpful on the Walsh too.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by atx840

Crude comparison, but the print is spot on when overlaid.

Originally Posted by E93

Can somebody line up the reprint blue old mill with the Walsh for comparison. If they are obviously different in proportions, that would lead to the conclusion that the Walsh did not come from the same press run as the other reprint.
JimB
P.S. A scan rather than photo would be helpful on the Walsh too.

atx840 scaled it to fit, but you can scale this to fit also. So you really need an original, a known reprint, and the walsh scanned at the same time.

[MVSNYC]

"NOTE....Some have previously said that this card's OLD MILL is "POLAR BEAR blue ink". I differ with that observation. Walsh cards
were printed in the 150/350 series. The POLAR BEAR backs were printed in the 350-only, 350/460 and 460-only series (but not in
the 150/350 series T206's)."

Hi Ted- i've also mentioned in the original thread that maybe the dark blue ink could have also been related to Walsh's jersey on the front of the card? i.e. they were printing the front of the sheets, then flipped them over and didn't change the ink after the blue? i forget, was the blue ink the last color printed or not?

[tedzan]

The sequence of the 6-color process employed by American Litho. to print these T-cards as I understand it, is as follows........

Yellow

Black

Brown

Blue

Green

Red


TED Z

[steve B]

Teds idea of how it could have happened is quite close to the idea I put out there on the original thread. It makes more sense because of timeline, there being Piedmonts and Old Mills printed in the same series.

It could have been as Ted says a press not cleaned down from blue ink when changing over to the black for Old Mill, OR a scenario like mine where some black or blue is borrowed to stretch the supply of ink on the press to the end of the day.
I think either is possible from what I've seen of typical print shops.
Mixing Piedmont blue with some black would get you close to Polar Bear blue, which itself varies from a dark blue to very dark blue.

All inks beyond a few basic colors were mixed by hand in a process similar to getting custom paint at a paint store before the computer mixing machines.

The only change I'd make would be so include the extra colors since many weren't 6 color, but more like 8-9 color. One thing that puzzles me is the black and brown being printed early. Obviously we have a few with yellow and brown so it's possible. But it sure isn't a best or typical practice. Black usually goes on last, and any other colors are typically applied lightest to darkest.

Steve B

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Here is another Old Mill back to compare to the real one. These are backs of a reprints. Not sure how they compare to the originals.