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[vintagetoppsguy]

Peter,

If you read that thread on CU (which has since been deleted), he did respond to the questions about the bumps. However, when he was asked about the shilling, he dummied up real quick and didn't say another word. Why would he choose to address some issues and not others?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Peter,

If you read that thread on CU (which has since been deleted), he did respond to the questions about the bumps. However, when he was asked about the shilling, he dummied up real quick and didn't say another word. Why would he choose to address some issues and not others?

What did he say about the bumps, I didn't see it pre-poofery.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What did he say about the bumps, I didn't see it pre-poofery.

He basically said that all auction houses offer a pre-viewing of all consignments and he was no different, and that pank21 had viewed these items in person and thought they were bump worthy.

He was then asked about the shilling and he didn't respond...and he had a couple of days to do it before that thread went poof. He did post in other threads in the meantime, so he had to have seen the questions.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

He basically said that all auction houses offer a pre-viewing of all consignments and he was no different, and that pank21 had viewed these items in person and thought they were bump worthy.

He was then asked about the shilling and he didn't respond...and he had a couple of days to do it before that thread went poof. He did post in other threads in the meantime, so he had to have seen the questions.

Well, that's not encouraging, is it?

[CMIZ5290]

So who exactly is pank21? Is that fair to ask?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

So who exactly is pank21? Is that fair to ask?

Kevin, that question tells me that you didn't bother to read this thread. How can you call me out, when you didn't even read everything that was laid out before you?

Your question was answered in post #32 where I also apologized to Rick...but I guess you missed that too.

pank21 = Joseph M Pankiewicz

[CMIZ5290]

David- i did not see that portion of the thread, thanks.....

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Peter,

If you read that thread on CU (which has since been deleted), he did respond to the questions about the bumps. However, when he was asked about the shilling, he dummied up real quick and didn't say another word. Why would he choose to address some issues and not others?

It appears that the seller's response was copied on Post #10 of this thread.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

It appears that the seller's response was copied on Post #10 of this thread.

Thanks, Dan!



hi guys,
every major auction house , including memory lane, heritage , mile high , huggins and scott , etc.... opens their items for auction up for VIEWING....
during this VIEWING period both dealers and collectors review the inventory for sale and decide which items they wanna bid on...
( sometimes they bring this inventory to shows for people to review as well )
yes, these dealers and collectors look for cards/items that may bump or sets or lots that may have great break value for resale or items that may be undervalued or just items they wanna buy for their collections...

probstein123 functions like a major auction in this fashion and we have a large pool of dealers who look at items to bid upon....
probstein123 is not aware of which items they like, nor which items they bid upon....we are busy posting , shipping , and handling close to 10,000 auctions monthly.....
none of these dealers are probstein staff and they all conduct their bids apart from probstein123 knowledge....we don't micro-manage the process - just like the major auction houses....
people bid on items they like...probstein123 is managed by the guidelines set forth by ebay trust and safety and we don't bid on our own items....

if you are interested in setting up viewing of auctions with probstein123 like other dealers and collectors, please feel free to call me at 973 747 6304....

thanks
rick

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Thanks, Dan!



hi guys,
every major auction house , including memory lane, heritage , mile high , huggins and scott , etc.... opens their items for auction up for VIEWING....
during this VIEWING period both dealers and collectors review the inventory for sale and decide which items they wanna bid on...
( sometimes they bring this inventory to shows for people to review as well )
yes, these dealers and collectors look for cards/items that may bump or sets or lots that may have great break value for resale or items that may be undervalued or just items they wanna buy for their collections...

probstein123 functions like a major auction in this fashion and we have a large pool of dealers who look at items to bid upon....
probstein123 is not aware of which items they like, nor which items they bid upon....we are busy posting , shipping , and handling close to 10,000 auctions monthly.....
none of these dealers are probstein staff and they all conduct their bids apart from probstein123 knowledge....we don't micro-manage the process - just like the major auction houses....
people bid on items they like...probstein123 is managed by the guidelines set forth by ebay trust and safety and we don't bid on our own items....

if you are interested in setting up viewing of auctions with probstein123 like other dealers and collectors, please feel free to call me at 973 747 6304....

thanks
rick

I think this is a pretty fair response on the issue he addressed. Not sure why he wouldn't also say that he won't do business anymore with a consignor who shilled his own item(s) in a Probstein auction.