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Old 08-11-2012, 09:00 PM
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I would ask to see the cert from JSA. I really believe that ball is not even close to being real.You only have to look at the S.
I do have a question for you. What are you collecting in autographs? You seem to be all over the place. I can not say that any one authenticator is better than someone else but just use your head. That is why Leon said this is not a free site. I don't want to sound mean but there come a time that you have to make your own decisions. Again make it clear what you are collecting so you that everyone on this site can help you in your search.
. The next question is where is the other cert from. I sure as hell would post both certs to make sure my buyers see what is fact or not. I would agree no returns means I don't buy. This is easy if you just take time to make sure what you are doing is right. There is no sure way to make sure what you are buying is real unless it was signed in front of you. Then you have nothing out there but trust.

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Old 08-11-2012, 09:22 PM
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I would ask to see the cert from JSA. I really believe that ball is not even close to being real.You only have to look at the S.
I do have a question for you. What are you collecting in autographs? You seem to be all over the place. I can not say that any one authenticator is better than someone else but just use your head. How many times do people have to say to you do your own research. That is why Leon said this is not a free site.
If you buy something because they said it is real makes them the bad guy because they gave you free advise.Pay for it that way you protect yourself. The next question is where is the other cert from. I sure as hell would post both certs to make sure my buyers where comfrotable.
Shelly, I just started collecting so that is why I'm "all over the place." I am doing my own research. I looked at this Koufax ball, did some comparing and didn't think it looked good. As such, I did what I've seen so many other people do, which is post it. Further more, I've been doing as much reading as I possibly can regarding the hobby. "If you buy something because they said it is real makes them the bad guy because they gave you free advise." Frankly Shelly, that isn't even a coherent sentence so I don't know what to do with that one. From day one I was prompted by other members to ask questions and seek advice. Am I using this service for free authentications? Of course not. I have a minuscule collection of 6 balls. I'd like to build on those six and I'd also like to become as knowledgeable as possible while doing so. Do this rub you the wrong way Shelly? If so, my apologies.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:28 PM
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I want to thank you for being so kind. I had just posted a new version of what I wrote. You answered before I could post it. The ball is bad. I should have never said anything else.Have a nice evening.

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Old 08-11-2012, 09:48 PM
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That ball s-u-x.
I bet ebay takes it down.
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:50 PM
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Ty, Just went on Ebay. There are 266 autographed Koufax balls. I would say that at least 200 have certs displayed from the following companys.. Steiner, Online Authentic's,Jsa, Psa and Uda. I can not stop and wonder why you would pick the one ball that is without a doubt not even close to being authentic. Please tell me why you would not trust the above company's? I know you have said your just learning.
People have already told you that this is best your going to get unless you watched it being signed. I will ask you again. What autographs do you want? I am sure there is enough people on this site that can take care of all you needs if not I sure they can direct you to the right place. If you have older items that you want I would suggest Richard and Jim.

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Old 08-11-2012, 11:29 PM
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I can not stop and wonder why you would pick the one ball that is without a doubt not even close to being authentic. .
Because it doesn't have a ball holder......

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Old 08-12-2012, 01:38 AM
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I can not stop and wonder why you would pick the one ball that is without a doubt not even close to being authentic. Please tell me why you would not trust the above company's? I know you have said your just learning.
Damn, Shelly! Read the OP! Nowhere did he say he wanted to buy it. He was pointing out a forgery, albeit in a tentative manner. He thought it was, but he wasn't sure, so he asked.

He clarified himself in response to your original beatdown, yet you do it again an hour and a half later? Sheesh.
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:40 AM
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Damn, Shelly! Read the OP! Nowhere did he say he wanted to buy it. He was pointing out a forgery, albeit in a tentative manner. He thought it was, but he wasn't sure, so he asked.

He clarified himself in response to your original beatdown, yet you do it again an hour and a half later? Sheesh.
Thank you good sir. I have no desire to enter into a back and forth exchange, that will most assuredly end badly, with anyone. We all have bad days and I will simply chalk up Shelly's posts to such a day and leave it at that. Again, thanks for your support it is indeed appreciated.
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:34 AM
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Looking at the sellers recent feedback, guy has 7 neutral and 5 negative in the past 12 months. For that reason alone, I would back away.
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