Ted Williams Autograph Authentication Help

[JimStinson]

In answer to your question have sold maybe 50 Cobb signatures over the years in fact the flyer that the Cobb museum hands out quotes a signature study I did on Cobb as well as the flagrant fouls leveled against Cobb as a person. Its called "Ty Cobb, Peach or Pariah", almost ALL of the stuff they invented was by a LOSER author named Al Stump , which they based the movie on. Believe it or not Cobb was not a bad guy , highly regarded by his team mates and players when he was a manager (except for maybe Sam Crawford who was a bit of an egotist himself), he contributed to numerous humanitarian causes and helped make many of his team mates RICH by convincing them to invest in a new company called "Coca-Cola"
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[JimStinson]

It appears I have been Plagiarized based on my wiki search. Thank you as least the truth is out................
In 2010, an article by William R. "Ron" Cobb (no relation to Ty) in The National Pastime, official publication of the Society for American Baseball Research, accused Al Stump of extensive forgeries of Cobb-related documents and diaries and even of having falsely claimed to possess a shotgun used by Cobb's mother to kill his father (in a well-known incident officially ascribed to her having mistaken him for an intruder). The shotgun later came into the hands of noted memorabilia collector Barry Halper, but in reality Cobb's father had been killed by a pistol. The article further accused Stump of numerous false statements about Cobb in his last years, most of which were sensationalistic in nature and intended to cast Cobb in an unflattering light

[TyrusRCobb]

Jim, what a fantastic feeling it must be to have such things pass through your fingers. I've read a couple of Cobb bios. I thought the movie was criminal. Funny you should mention the Stump book. I just started reading it last week as I've heard so much about the errors and liberties Stump took in writing the book. I've been having fun trying to fact checking Stump against what we now know to be the truth about Cobb.

One more question regarding the fake Williams signature: Other than the obvious ballpoint pen use, what tells are in the signature itself that point to it being a fake?

[shelly]

Sorry for not answering you quicker. I just will say that Chris and Jim gave you a complete and I must say perfect answers. I would like to know what you where looking at when you said they look the same? That is one horrible autograph.

[JimStinson]

Thank you Shelly, My friend this is done deal , if you would like to keep searching for clues do so. You have been well advised if you choose to ignore the advice do so , its a free country
best wishes in your collecting pusuits
J.

[TyrusRCobb]

Originally Posted by JimStinson

Thank you Shelly, My friend this is done deal , if you would like to keep searching for clues do so. You have been well advised if you choose to ignore the advice do so , its a free country
best wishes in your collecting pusuits
J.

Jim, please don't misunderstand my last post. I am, after all of the great answers I've received in the forum, absolutely convinced that the signature is a fake.

I'm only trying to learn the best way to go about confirming signatures in general. I completely agree that the Williams fake is "a done deal." I'm simply attempting to learn as much as I can about collecting from all of you.

[prewarsports]

Here is a Ted Williams signed in 1939 for comparison. His signature was nowhere near as polished as it became later on in his career, but you can see where it eventually got to based on how he started, most of the major characters are the same.

Rhys

[TyrusRCobb]

prewarsports, thanks for the lesson. Where's the best place to begin when trying to establish authenticity? Do I simply compare two signatures from images available on the web? Is there a signature "bible" in the same way such books exist for coin collectors? Come to think of it, how did collectors authenticate prior to the web?