Black Swamp Find?

[E93]

Scott M. Is pure class. Happy to see you around Scott
JimB

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by E93

Scott M. Is pure class. Happy to see you around Scott
JimB

+1

Great seeing you pop up Scott give me a call sometime love to catch up. I hope you're doing well...I stand behind my words you're still the king of E98 Scott long live the Gang Green Set.

Cheers,

John

P.S. Nothing pedestrian about these beauties!

[ctownboy]

momof6,

It is good to hear more about this find. When Tom Hufford was telling his story, I thought for a moment there was going to be some heartbreaking news to many people on this board.

I was reading his story and he was talking about unopened tobacco products. I thought he was going to say that there were some unopened Piedmont or Sweet Caporal cardboard tobacco packs found and that either 1) because no one searching through the house smoked or 2) because no one wanted to try 100 year-old cigarettes, the packs were thrown away.

Then, after the E98's were found, did the people searching the house realize that they might have thrown away some valuable tobacco cards and went to look for them but they were already in the landfill.

David

[Bicem]

what's up with the green beaters?

[phlflyer1]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

+1

Great seeing you pop up Scott give me a call sometime love to catch up. I hope you're doing well...I stand behind my words you're still the king of E98 Scott long live the Gang Green Set.

Cheers,

John

Thanks Jim and John for the kind words.

I'm still around and doing well although I haven't been too active in the hobby or on keeping up with the board the past couple of years.

Thankfully, I was alerted to this thread by a fellow collector and also by hearing about the find in the news.

I'm kind of disappointed that my old friend Pete C. did not reach out to me and let me know that he had the privilege of handling these cards since he was also the one to help me get the E98 set from my find graded back when I "came out of the woodwork" in 2005.

The cards from this find are definitely stunning and I can't wait to see how they do in the upcoming auctions as they are sold.

[mklitzke]

Hey All,

So I have the "Hans" Wagner card in orange and the Johnny Evers card in green from the E98 set.... We found them when clearing out my great-grandfather's attic in 1990. I've never really know what they were worth. They are not in mint condition, but there is very little discoloration on the white border and they still have crisp corners. Do you think they'll be worth much after this influx of cards from the Black Swamp Find...?

Thanks!

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by mklitzke

Hey All,

So I have the "Hans" Wagner card in orange and the Johnny Evers card in green from the E98 set.... We found them when clearing out my great-grandfather's attic in 1990. I've never really know what they were worth. They are not in mint condition, but there is very little discoloration on the white border and they still have crisp corners. Do you think they'll be worth much after this influx of cards from the Black Swamp Find...?

Thanks!

Do you have pictures or scans of the cards? That would really help in giving you an accurate valuation. As you probably have figured by now, condition is of the utmost importance.

[ullmandds]

It's pouring E98's!!!! I wish it would pour e94's...purple ones would be nice!!!!

[AndyG09]

E98, the new 1988 Donruss!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by mklitzke

Hey All,

So I have the "Hans" Wagner card in orange and the Johnny Evers card in green from the E98 set.... We found them when clearing out my great-grandfather's attic in 1990. I've never really know what they were worth. They are not in mint condition, but there is very little discoloration on the white border and they still have crisp corners. Do you think they'll be worth much after this influx of cards from the Black Swamp Find...?

Thanks!

Yes they will definitely still have good value but it is sort of hard to say where all of this is going to put the other cards already in the hobby. No doubt that red ones already in the hobby will take bit of a hit, with so many high grades ones being found. It's hard to fathom they wouldn't come down some. Other colors, it's just too hard to say right now. Would love to see scans of them too.

[ScottR81]

I posted this days ago and it got moved to watercooler talk???

[mklitzke]

I'll see if I can get some scans up in the next few days... they've been packed away for a while so I've gotta dig em out

[barrysloate]

I would be interested to know what percentage of the collection Heritage plans to sell privately. If nearly all are sold privately, and only a small group reaches auction, then prices might actually remain pretty strong. The fewer sold publicly, the greater the demand for the remaining ones.

I think for those collectors who want to make a serious investment in these, it's probably pretty tough to figure out what they're worth. I guess it's going to take some time for the market on these to stabilize, and I would expect some volatility early on.

[mklitzke]

Originally Posted by Leon

Yes they will definitely still have good value but it is sort of hard to say where all of this is going to put the other cards already in the hobby. No doubt that red ones already in the hobby will take bit of a hit, with so many high grades ones being found. It's hard to fathom they wouldn't come down some. Other colors, it's just too hard to say right now. Would love to see scans of them too.

Hey...

Here are some photos of my cards... what ya'll think?

Michael

[ullmandds]

Honus looks very nice... but then again it's so common!!!

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by mklitzke

Hey...

Here are some photos of my cards... what ya'll think?

Michael

very nice wagner...if the white lines on his legs are not creases or wrinkles it looks like an easy 4.

[momof6]

Alas, my "role" in this story is only that of an in-law. I did have the opportunity to spend a couple of days helping sort through the house, (what fun that was. Lots of lost "treasures"!) but due to work, I was out of the picture long before the cards were found. Most of the details I know I have learned through watching Karl being interviewed by various networks. I have been doing a lot of research on the E98, for my own information (I'm a geek like that) but truthfully, I have avoided learning all the "inside information" so I didn't have to worry about keeping it all secret!
It has been very difficult for me to see all the various stories floating around and not saying "Hey, silly! That's not right!!" Just today, a local NC Fox station had the aunt finding the cards and having to share them with her dozen nieces and nephews. How does a story get so wrong????
It has been requested that I hold off on posting any doll house pictures for right now. As soon as I am given the ok, I will gladly post.

Until then, happy bidding. I truely hope all of you that want to purchase a card have the opportunity to do so, at some point. Thanks for the welcome!

[brickyardkennedy]

One more vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBZuGDQ6qk0

This is the greatest treasure trove ever uncovered in the history of the hobby. I was a loyal collector who spent ALL of my allowance money on early-mid 90's cards. Rather than getting a "real job" I would flip my doubles on eBay and various message boards, since eBay was pretty new then. Before I knew it, the modern day card market crashed. I was so frustrated that I sold off my entire collection in bulk and never looked back until now. Once in a while I will bust a Wal-Mart box of something like Allen & Ginter just to get that fix that I so desperately miss. But let's face it, the only way to sustain true value in the hobby nowadays is to purchase very high end "boxes" that contain 1-3 packs with a guaranteed rookie cut, auto, or something of that nature. No one wants to spend $300-$500 for a few cards that could either skyrocket or fizzle out. It's just not appealing to the collector nor your wallet. Which is why I had given up the hobby for over 10 years, until recently. Because of the Black Swamp Find that I read in my local paper (I live in NE Ohio) I found this message board. For a week now, I have done nothing but look at everyone's collection and thoughts on Pre-War cards, which I know nothing about yet highly appreciate. My wife thinks I am nuts! Haha. But, much to my surprise, there is in fact a market for those who truly love the hobby...I've just been looking into all the wrong places until now. I could never imagine the feeling of a Black Swamp like find, but it's more exciting to me that pulling a juiced up A-Rod swatch card from a high-end pack. Because of this find, I found you guys and because of you guys, I may join the hobby again. I love collecting cardboard, but when I tossed all my eggs into the 90's basket and ended up holding a goose egg that everyone else had, I hesitated to ever do it again. Thanks for opening up my eyes

[RUSH2112]

Originally Posted by momof6

Alas, my "role" in this story is only that of an in-law. I did have the opportunity to spend a couple of days helping sort through the house, (what fun that was. Lots of lost "treasures"!) but due to work, I was out of the picture long before the cards were found. Most of the details I know I have learned through watching Karl being interviewed by various networks. I have been doing a lot of research on the E98, for my own information (I'm a geek like that) but truthfully, I have avoided learning all the "inside information" so I didn't have to worry about keeping it all secret!
It has been very difficult for me to see all the various stories floating around and not saying "Hey, silly! That's not right!!" Just today, a local NC Fox station had the aunt finding the cards and having to share them with her dozen nieces and nephews. How does a story get so wrong????
It has been requested that I hold off on posting any doll house pictures for right now. As soon as I am given the ok, I will gladly post.

Until then, happy bidding. I truely hope all of you that want to purchase a card have the opportunity to do so, at some point. Thanks for the welcome!

So who's asking you to hold off on the doll house pictures?

I have an idea but want to be sure. And I'm sure it's all about the money.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by RUSH2112

So who's asking you to hold off on the doll house pictures?

I have an idea but want to be sure. And I'm sure it's all about the money.

That is a rude question and snide insinuation. I wouldn't answer if I were that person. Why do you want to be sure? What concern is it of yours? They said they were asked not to post them. Not a big deal. I appreciate them coming on the board in the first place.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by RUSH2112

So who's asking you to hold off on the doll house pictures?

I have an idea but want to be sure. And I'm sure it's all about the money.

Someone close to the find appears on the board and you want to know about the dollhouse????

I have better questions:

1) Do you know if the cards were bundled by player?

2) Were there more then 22 of any color for any individual player, or were most found right at the number 22?

-Matt