PSA vs SGC...the definitive Debate!!!

T206Collector · #1 06-28-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by glynparson

Keep drinking the Kool Aid Paul

Here's a tip -- if you wouldn't feel comfortable posting it on a thread don't send it to me in a private message. Not sure what's worse -- gossip that's intended just for me, or gossip that's intended for a wider viewing audience.

Now I am sure you were trying to make a point, and just didn't feel comfortable sharing people's names. But the only thing I care about is that SGC 60s don't have wrinkles and too many PSA 5s do. Please save your personal drama about the chronies for someone else who cares. If you want to send me scans of SGC 60s that are messed up, my email line is wide open. Still waiting for that one ...just one...scan.

glynparson · #2 06-29-2012, 02:54 AM

Do say or think whatever you must I am done trying to help.

T206Collector · #3 06-29-2012, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by glynparson

Do say or think whatever you must I am done trying to help.

Oh, you were "trying to help"? Here I thought we were having an old fashioned disagreement and you were trying to prove you were right, while calling me a "fanboy" and a "fool" along the way.

But, i appreciate your allowing me to have an opinion. In case anyone is keeping track, that's three days now without a single scan of an SGC 60 with a wrinkle or crease.

bobbyw8469 · #4 06-29-2012, 06:22 AM

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In case anyone is keeping track, that's three days now without a single scan of an SGC 60 with a wrinkle or crease.

Would you like to see an SGC '4' that looks like, and graded an '8'?

Or would you prefer to see the SGC '3' that they later deemed to be trimmed??

vintagetoppsguy · #5 06-29-2012, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Would you like to see an SGC '4' that looks like, and graded an '8'?

Or would you prefer to see the SGC '3' that they later deemed to be trimmed??

In other words, you don't have a scan of a card graded SGC 60 or higher with a crease or a card graded SGC 50 or higher with paper loss? That's what I'm hearing. Give us something we can see that we can all look at and agree, "Yup, SGC screwed that one up," not a story of a card you used to own or your friend owned or that you once saw at a dealer booth or anything else - give us visual proof.

T206Collector · #6 06-29-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

In other words, you don't have a scan of a card graded SGC 60 or higher with a crease or a card graded SGC 50 or higher with paper loss? That's what I'm hearing. Give us something we can see that we can all look at and agree, "Yup, SGC screwed that one up," not a story of a card you used to own or your friend owned or that you once saw at a dealer booth or anything else - give us visual proof.

+1

T206Collector · #7 06-29-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Would you like to see an SGC '4' that looks like, and graded an '8'?

Or would you prefer to see the SGC '3' that they later deemed to be trimmed??

Not really helpful. Again, just want a scan of an SGC 60+ with a wrinkle or a crease. I know there must be one out there. SGC are human after all. They are not IMMORTAL GODS incapable of making mistakes.

.....or are they?!?!?!?!?!

vintagetoppsguy · #8 06-29-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by T206Collector

Not really helpful. Again, just want a scan of an SGC 60+ with a wrinkle or a crease. I know there must be one out there. SGC are human after all. They are not IMMORTAL GODS incapable of making mistakes.

.....or are they?!?!?!?!?!

This situation reminds me of the CarFax commercials. We're the buyers on the dealership lot asking to see the CarFax report (SGC 60 w/crease or SGC 50 w/paper loss) and the salesman (Bobby) wants to show us everything else.

Peter_Spaeth · #9 06-29-2012, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

This situation reminds me of the CarFax commercials. We're the buyers on the dealership lot asking to see the CarFax report (SGC 60 w/crease or SGC 50 w/paper loss) and the salesman (Bobby) wants to show us everything else.

i disagree. Bobby's point is that SGC, like PSA, has overgraded and undergraded cards, and I would add graded cards that should have been rejected. That we don't happen to have a specific example of this within an artificially narrow category of errors doesn't negate the general proposition. Both companies make mistakes.

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