Lou Gehrig Cut Autograph---I really need help

[prewarsports]

There are legit Gehrig and Ruth cuts out there, I have had some that came out of Watermans autograph books (the kids were supposed to cut them off letters and paste them in) but in general cuts were pasted into books and there was a REASON they were cut! If you ever find a cut that looks Near Mint or there is no glue residue on the back etc., then be EXTRA cautious. Why would someone cut something and then keep it in mint condition and never glue it to a display or something? Answer...... they didn't.

Rhys

[travrosty]

forgers will buy common, old books and use the old paper for several cut opportunities from a few blank pages in one old book. and if they screw up, they haven't ruined anything of value, just a piece of an old piece of paper. so it is low cost, low risk, high reward.

[Wymers Auction]

Originally Posted by travrosty

forgers will buy common, old books and use the old paper for several cut opportunities from a few blank pages in one old book. and if they screw up, they haven't ruined anything of value, just a piece of an old piece of paper. so it is low cost, low risk, high reward.

I contacted an auction house not long ago about this same thing. They had tons of cuts from the same paper source. It was lined paper with a red line and it was pretty easy to tell it was the same. They had Cobb, Speaker, Ruth, Wagner, and many more. I asked them if they really think that someone got all of these on a single paper and then cut it all up and also they do not care what it brings when it sells. The cuts sold for almost nothing at all.

[travrosty]

the trick for them is to get one of these cuts past a major tpa. then you have a gold brick. i have seen ruth cuts to make one blush with a coa from abc, xyz, and qrs. help!

[J.McMurry]

I wonder if the TPG's ever take notice when they receive a high percentage of fake material from the same submitter?

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by J.McMurry

I wonder if the TPG's ever take notice when they receive a high percentage of fake material from the same submitter?

Yes they do.

[J.McMurry]

So,if they do pay attention to who submits a high number of bad material, the TPG's could actually be a big help in tracking down forgers or at least the middleman. My question is do they or have they ever taken that step?

[mschwade]

What about the guys that buy autograph album books and/or team sheets and think they could make more money cutting up the book and selling them as individual cuts? REA, for example, had a Joe Giard cut out of an autograph book in their last auction. REA, however, had a picture of the autograph book included with the auction lot before the signature was cut-out.