Black Swamp Find?

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I think Andrew enjoys the "We open up your slab, let you fix flaws, then we reslab at a higher grade while you wait" service that SGC provides.

Well Daryl if you can provide proof of this accusation I would be more than happy to consider it against the many altered high grade PSA cards out there.

So what you are saying Glyn is that SGC is just like PSA. They cater to their high end dealers and cards, and assign false grades to the cards for those submitters to increase their profits but not SGC's. So they do the same thing as the Young collection, the McNall Wagner, the now graded PSA 10 Wagner, as well as an extremely high number of others.


I would love to start my own service

[Matthew H]

Andrew, there's a card slabber on eBay right now, only 3k

Originally Posted by Matthew H

Andrew, there's a card slabber on eBay right now, only 3k

Yeah but at this point I could use that towards the software program for the damn scanner I have been messing with for the last 5+ yrs(has been longer) for grading cards. The slab is another story. I wouldn't be able to use that machine anyways because they vibrate and can cause damage. Some day I will be able to have all the cards I want. Then I have to give them back to the guys that sent them to me

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Well Daryl if you can provide proof of this accusation I would be more than happy to consider it against the many altered high grade PSA cards out there.

I think Daryl is referring to this post on the board here where a mark was erased in front of SGC graders, and the card went from SGC 20 to SGC 40: Link

[pcoz]

Originally Posted by glchen

I think Daryl is referring to this post on the board here where a mark was erased in front of SGC graders, and the card went from SGC 20 to SGC 40: Link

That was my card and we beat this thing to death recently. Almost 90% had no problem and didn't consider that altering a card. As far as The Black Swamp Find, I think a PSA 10 for that card is a joke. SGC wouldn't grade that over an 8. 8.5 at best. It's a beautiful card, but no way a 10. I can tell you I have equally as many SGC as PSA cards, and there are some PSA 5's I have that would be SGC 40's. As it relates to my caramel collection, SGC is unquestionably more accurate and would love to see how they'd grade this "Find".

Removing a faint pencil mark is just like soaking paper off a card. Sounds like your argument is validated by a 90% margin saying it wasn't altering. That's was great customer service IMO.

[glynparson]

that said SGC should not have done that. Plus they lay down corners in the grading room for many submitters at SGC and I do think that is altering.

[pcoz]

Originally Posted by glynparson

that said SGC should not have done that. Plus they lay down corners in the grading room for many submitters at SGC and I do think that is altering.

Glyn, I sat with Earl Johnson out in their lobby, not Bob Luce or Scott in their grading room, who are their graders removing that pencil mark. Not sure about them putting corners in the grading room for submitters. Either way, a card is a card and I trust SGC more than PSA. I'm sure the Swamp Find will bring "10" money, but IMO it's not accurately graded. Whoever submitted that card and all the other "Swamp Find" E98's(which are now showing up on the PSA Pop Report), took a lot off the table for themselves diluting the market with all these new "high" grades. I would've gotten one at a time graded/sold and dripped them on the market instead of getting them all graded at once. 9 Red Chief Meyers PSA 9's???

[Matthew H]

Sounds like an amazing find!