Heritage Auction problem

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by travrosty

Is that professionalism by an auction house? Playing games like that instead of addressing the issue of why this ball was even up on their website, and with a TPA auction loa listed with it as well? Their answer to this is to redirect a link and take a potshot at someone? Professionals???

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Well said Travis.
Their behavior is more like a petulant child than a professional auction house.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

+1
Well said Travis.
Their behavior is more like a petulant child than a professional auction house.

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[shelly]

I have been in this hobby for fifty years, and as most of you know, 12 years ago, I was arrested for selling forged material. I was an idiot for selling bad merchandise; it was a mistake. I really have tried to do things right since then.

The reason I am even getting involved with this thread, is the way Heritage mentioned Richard and Travis in their post on this board. I really don't know Travis, but Richard Simon is a friend of mine, and I felt that because of my past and our friendship, they could be saying that I might be the HOF forger, or that Chris Williams could be the Cooperstown Forger, because he is also a friend of Richard. Jim Stinson is a friend of Richard; is he the Cooperstown Forger?

Heritage is saying things that make everyone on this board look like they could be the bad guy.

I have dealt with one of their wonder-kins in the past named Mike Gutierrez, and I have a great deal to say about Mark Jordan. I will be discussing them in great lengths, once I receive some needed items. These are the people Heritage chooses to associate with while trying to use innuendo to denigrate others.

Leon, you of all people, should protest such innuendos being placed on the board. Just pure crap to make people look bad without any proof at all being offered.

If people disagree with Heritage that is not a reason for Heritage to remove them from participating in their auctions.

Heritage, you say you know who this forger is. Tell us who you think it is. The truth is your defense. You take pride in the fact that you do $700 million in business annually. Then please explain to me why you are acting like a five and dime store.(Just showing my age).

I would also bet the letter written so perfectly by you, was done by your warm blooded lawyer.

[travrosty]

Shelly,

thank you for your post, I haven't met Shelly or known him but i do agree that the way Heritage handled it was not professional and heaven knows me and a few of my boxing friends bent over backwards to try to help them with their boxing offerings but they are always the smartest guy in the room according to them, so we gave up trying to help.

A bad piece like the "signed" Mike Tyson preprint under the frame just ended up selling, even with a cert from a major TPA.

If they have something to say they should just come out and say it and stop "implying" things.

[ctownboy]

A little off topic, but I read an article yesterday that said Heritage recently sold a dinosaur skeleton that a Texas court had ruled shouldn't be sold. The skeleton had been smuggled out of Mongolia illegally.

Auctioned dinosaur was removed illegally, say experts | MNN ...
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/ani...ly-say-experts

David

[RichardSimon]

That is one interesting article and quite a collectible .
I also want to say thanks to Shelly for his post. We have been friends for a number of years and I have witnessed many of the right things that Shelly has done to help the hobby.
Seems like attempts to intimidate Net54 members does not work very well.
Thank goodness we still have freedom of speech on this board, as long as you follow the proper rules and don't try to hide.

[Maddog]

Hi gang, although still a newbie to Net54 I feel I need to add my two cents here so please forgive my ramble.
Hopefully Heritage is still following this stink bomb of theirs so they read this.

I have followed and bid on Heritages auctions over the years and bought a fair amount of items from Rich Simon as well. I lost interest in Heritage when on several occasions my "winning bids" seemed to be trumped after the auction had closed. I have never had any form of an issue with Rich. In fact at this point I will not bid on anymore auctions because I have no trust in any of the houses. I have narrowed down the list of dealers that I will buy from to around 5 and Rich is in that 5.

It may sound corny but honesty and integrity are very important to me. To have an "alleged" idiot (hey if it covers their ass it covers mine ) make what I felt were very disparaging comments about someone who has been trying to change the BS in our hobby for longer than I've been involved in the hobby, and offer some of the worst excuses for their negligence just makes me sick.

So to the folk at Heritage, I'll tell you what, you can ban me as well, you have my info on file.

Regards

Charles Maselli