If I were SGC, I would BUY this fake and get it off the market!

[jalex]

I like SGC only because my kids can handle them without me freaking out and I think they look nice, but I did send in my T206 Summers and it came back ungraded miscut, I sent it back two months later and it got an 80... PS- I sent it back because I measured it left and right, up and down and can say with some certainty that it is NOT miscut nor trimmed, it's not short at all. From no grade to 80 is a huge jump...

Jim

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Originally Posted by jalex

I like SGC only because my kids can handle them without me freaking out and I think they look nice, but I did send in my T206 Summers and it came back ungraded miscut, I sent it back two months later and it got an 80... PS- I sent it back because I measured it left and right, up and down and can say with some certainty that it is NOT miscut nor trimmed, it's not short at all. From no grade to 80 is a huge jump...

Jim

Post a scan?

[jalex]

I will tonight... If I can figure it out.

Jim

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by jalex

I like SGC only because my kids can handle them without me freaking out and I think they look nice, but I did send in my T206 Summers and it came back ungraded miscut, I sent it back two months later and it got an 80... PS- I sent it back because I measured it left and right, up and down and can say with some certainty that it is NOT miscut nor trimmed, it's not short at all. From no grade to 80 is a huge jump...

Jim

I had the same xperience years ago with SGC--went from 'trimmed' to an 84. The card was great, BTW, and not at all tampered with.

[jalex]

Here it is...

I am not ragging on SGC for this by the way... I have no dog in the hunt. I think the card was a millimeter short of standard, maybe, and whoever graded it originally was being overly cautious. It measures a mm or so shorter than some of my sgc graded cards, but it also measures a couple of mm taller than others. At some point it's just subjective. i think it's a beauty. I bought it raw for 30 bucks or so and only had it slabbed for the reasons I mentioned before. I only sent it back because I thought they missed it on this one, but they have pretty much nailed it on my 20 other t206... Anyway, hope the scans show...

Jim



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[bobbyw8469]

From no grade to 80 is a huge jump...

Dang!! That makes me wish I had sent in my Gehrig again that they said 'measures short'.....

[danmckee]

You cannot tell if a T206 is trimmed or not by measuring. They come in several different sizes. My set was put together in the 1970s and I can tell you there are about 20 different sizes of not trimmed cards in it.

[jalex]

Well, yeah, that was kind of my point. I have only 20ish T206s and they vary, which is why I was pretty confident about the Summers. I don't think there is a single t206 I own that measures exactly the same. I think the graders get a bit caught up in the stats, a t206 should be this or that, etc... instead of just looking at them for what they are. These things weren't laser cut by a computer, they vary wildly, which is why I like em'...

Jim

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by jalex

Well, yeah, that was kind of my point. I have only 20ish T206s and they vary, which is why I was pretty confident about the Summers. I don't think there is a single t206 I own that measures exactly the same. I think the graders get a bit caught up in the stats, a t206 should be this or that, etc... instead of just looking at them for what they are. These things weren't laser cut by a computer, they vary wildly, which is why I like em'...

Jim

Yes you are right Jim! I do agree with your point and it is a very good point.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Dang!! That makes me wish I had sent in my Gehrig again that they said 'measures short'.....

ALWAYS SUBMIT MULTIPLE TIMES!!!!!

ALWAYS!!!!

Are you hearing anything I am saying about grading??