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Old 11-11-2025, 06:52 PM
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I wonder how long until Scott becomes senior head grader right under Reza at PSA.
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It is interesting/surprising/exciting to see CGC getting this much love. It seems like it’s a challenge to break into this space, and yet they seem to be making a decent showing of it, much to my surprise. But maybe it’s just a sign of the market craving for another option.
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It is interesting/surprising/exciting to see CGC getting this much love. It seems like it’s a challenge to break into this space, and yet they seem to be making a decent showing of it, much to my surprise. But maybe it’s just a sign of the market craving for another option.

Over 85% of CGC’s grade count is TCG and other non-sports.
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Over 85% of CGC’s grade count is TCG and other non-sports.
True... But a huge chunk of PSA's numbers are TCG as well. Sportscards only account for 35.6% of PSA's total numbers. And the vast majority of that is ultra-modern.

Just going by the "eye test", I agree with raulus that CGC is starting to make some significant in-roads. I am seeing a lot more sportscards in CGC slabs these days.
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I wonder how long until Scott becomes senior head grader right under Reza at PSA.
Well John, once again, I was told by people here professing to have superior knowledge of how businesses were run that this could never happen.
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TAG is the most transparent of the bunch IMO. Their slabs are clear with the flip being etched into the slab (clean look IMO). It contains a QR code that anyone can scan and get all of the details as to why the grade is what it is. I have no idea if they have the ability to hold on as a player in the market, but the transparency they provide is second to none. I see them a lot more on the Pokemon side of things.

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TAG is the most transparent of the bunch IMO. Their slabs are clear with the flip being etched into the slab (clean look IMO). It contains a QR code that anyone can scan and get all of the details as to why the grade is what it is. I have no idea if they have the ability to hold on as a player in the market, but the transparency they provide is second to none. I see them a lot more on the Pokemon side of things.
Thanks, I appreciate the info! It is a nice looking slab. This is the first time I have heard of them.
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Thanks, I appreciate the info! It is a nice looking slab. This is the first time I have heard of them.
You're welcome. I hope they become a mainstay and become more mainstream in the sports market. I don't think any of their business model is proprietary, but their business practices when it comes to transparent grades should be the standard. At the very least, I hope other companies adopt that aspect of their model. They are partnered with Card Party (ran by DeepPocketMonster, a huge player in the YouTube Pokemon space), which has become a massive Pokemon-specific show held annually or now biannually.

Here is more info on their DIG Report (Digital Image & Grading). It's really solid stuff that takes all the guesswork out of the equation.
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Well John, once again, I was told by people here professing to have superior knowledge of how businesses were run that this could never happen.
Could never happen… I’ve heard that a lot over the last 10 years in regards to the collecting community
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Could never happen… I’ve heard that a lot over the last 10 years in regards to the collecting community
Superior Knowledge or Superior Opinions lol

Time will tell…

My question is what impact does the downfall of the grading number at SGC have on the the previous higher end vintage graded cars in SGC slabs.

Will the youth remember SGC ?
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Time will tell…

My question is what impact does the downfall of the grading number at SGC have on the the previous higher end vintage graded cars in SGC slabs.

Will the youth remember SGC ?
I have many SGC cards and certainly hope they retain value, but for reasons we've discussed, my expectation would be that inevitably and eventually a defunct brand is going to suffer some devaluation.
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Old 11-12-2025, 10:34 AM
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I have many SGC cards and certainly hope they retain value, but for reasons we've discussed, my expectation would be that inevitably and eventually a defunct brand is going to suffer some devaluation.
I agree with you...hopefully it will be very minimal devaluation.
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I agree with you...hopefully it will be very minimal devaluation.
The other thing is, while I expect exceptions will be made for certain favored people (just how the grading game works), crossovers are going to be very tough given the pretty dramatic changes in PSA grading standards.
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I agree with you...hopefully it will be very minimal devaluation.
As long as everyone around here continues to value them at full value, including buying them at full value, they will retain that value. And over time, this group will probably end up buying up the vast majority of them.

At least, until this group finds a need to cash out.
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I have many SGC cards and certainly hope they retain value, but for reasons we've discussed, my expectation would be that inevitably and eventually a defunct brand is going to suffer some devaluation.
The change in grading standards has also created a negative perception of older PSA slabs too. I wonder if those take a hit in value down the line
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The change in grading standards has also created a negative perception of older PSA slabs too. I wonder if those take a hit in value down the line
That has certainly been the case with modern high grade.
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The change in grading standards has also created a negative perception of older PSA slabs too. I wonder if those take a hit in value down the line
it is really really noticeable with the t206 cards i collect. what used to be a 3 is almost a 1 now when you compare old old slabs to modern ones. goes back to the "buy the card not the grade"
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Registry play cards will get hit the most. The 7s or 8s that should be 2 grades lower by today's standards.
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