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Old 03-31-2025, 08:53 AM
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But he did provide the tracking number in the picture he took. Leon told us that the picture shows the tracking number. So all of this is so much unnecessary drama over a typical transaction that was simply delayed in the mail.
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Old 03-31-2025, 08:56 AM
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But he did provide the tracking number in the picture he took. Leon told us that the picture shows the tracking number. So all of this is so much unnecessary drama over a typical transaction that was simply delayed in the mail.
He provided that picture to Leon. No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer. The fact that that question keeps being ignored is concerning. If it was ever provided, just say so. If it wasn't, just say so. All this runaround sends up red flags.

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He provided that picture to Leon. No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer. The fact that that question keeps being ignored is concerning. If it was ever provided, just say so. If it wasn't, just say so. All this runaround sends up red flags.
Look at post #34, counselor. James acknowledged he got the picture.

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Old 03-31-2025, 10:19 AM
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Look at post #34, counselor. James acknowledged he got the picture.

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He acknowledged he got the picture after this thread was made. That's not what I am worried about. I want to know if a tracking number was ever provided before a thread had to be made. James claims to have asked for it and been denied. Seller (and Leon) both refuse to answer the question if it was provided previously.

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No sir. He never gave me the tracking. He kept repeating that he would provide tracking but never did.
I get that seller then provided tracking later. My problem is with this behavior of never giving the tracking, even when asked, until a thread gets made.

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He acknowledged he got the picture after this thread was made. That's not what I am worried about. I want to know if a tracking number was ever provided before a thread had to be made. James claims to have asked for it and been denied. Seller (and Leon) both refuse to answer the question if it was provided previously.
You remind me of my dad (*RIP) when he used to say to me -

"Son, you would argue with a sign-post and give it a 30 minute head start"

Not quite sure exactly what that meant, but I don't think it was good.
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Old 03-31-2025, 10:26 AM
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You remind me of my dad (*RIP) when he used to say to me -

"Son, you would argue with a sign-post and give it a 30 minute head start"

Not quite sure exactly what that meant, but I don't think it was good.
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I'm not arguing anything. I asked a simple question and haven't gotten a simple answer. Did seller provide tracking before this thread was made? That's all I want to know. You would rather insult me than answer that question. Which is just as telling as all the other evasive answers you provided.
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I'm not arguing anything. I asked a simple question and haven't gotten a simple answer. Did seller provide tracking before this thread was made? That's all I want to know. You would rather insult me than answer that question. Which is just as telling as all the other evasive answers you provided.
Asked the same question at least once early on. Nobody wants to answer the question which only makes me want the answer more.
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For everyone's clarification:

1. I have the tracking number.

2. Octavio is not at fault.

3. The cards are 1948 Bowman, 6 of them, not reprints.

4. Out of generosity, Octavio charged $15 for them, plus $5 to mail them.

5. I challenge any of you to find 6 1948 Bowman cards for $15 anywhere. Thus my interest in getting resolution.

6. Because the tracking indicates the package is now at its 18th stop, North Bay California, with intended address in Fort Myers Florida clearly written on the package, I have now submitted an inquiry with the Post Office to attempt recovery of the package with delivery to my address.

Hope this clears everything up to your satisfaction.
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He acknowledged he got the picture after this thread was made. That's not what I am worried about. I want to know if a tracking number was ever provided before a thread had to be made. James claims to have asked for it and been denied. Seller (and Leon) both refuse to answer the question if it was provided previously.

Here is what James claims in post 34:



I get that seller then provided tracking later. My problem is with this behavior of never giving the tracking, even when asked, until a thread gets made.
"No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer."

I think maybe you meant to ask a different question?

Personally I would not expect $15 of cards to be sent with tracking. My thinking is why would you pay $5 to ship $15 of cards, just put them in a PWE.





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"No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer."

I think maybe you meant to ask a different question?

Personally I would not expect $15 of cards to be sent with tracking. My thinking is why would you pay $5 to ship $15 of cards, just put them in a PWE.





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Why does it keep coming back to $15?

Why do you just seem incapable of understanding that these are 1948 Bowman cards? Not cheap reprints. Please try to find 6 48 Bowman for $15 anywhere. It's the cards, not the money! Please try to be rational.
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Why does it keep coming back to $15?
Probably because you once again started a thread ostensibly just to complain and create drama - (you weren't willing to out the seller, and thus the initial point seemed to be for little else...) and that (the $15) was something easy to latch onto in regards to the value of the thread when it became known.

I will admit that all this subsequently became a lot more interesting. But I'm still not sure I'm any smarter today than yesterday evening when I first dove into it.
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Why do you just seem incapable of understanding that these are 1948 Bowman cards? Not cheap reprints. Please try to find 6 48 Bowman for $15 anywhere. It's the cards, not the money! Please try to be rational.
James, forgive me for saying this, but the most irrational thing about all of this is that you thought you were getting screwed over a small dollar deal, by somebody who has made deals with everybody on this board, including you, and then you felt the need to publicly vent over it.



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"No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer."

I think maybe you meant to ask a different question?

Personally I would not expect $15 of cards to be sent with tracking. My thinking is why would you pay $5 to ship $15 of cards, just put them in a PWE.


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Depends on the cards and buyer. In this case they are cards James really likes/wants so I could see paying for the tracking/better packaging.

Plus shipping is different for everyone. Personally when selling or buying if you/I want to save a few bucks and use a PWE there is usually zero guarantee on delivery. With tracking if they do not show up I expect to be refunded or give one.
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"No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer."

I think maybe you meant to ask a different question?

Personally I would not expect $15 of cards to be sent with tracking. My thinking is why would you pay $5 to ship $15 of cards, just put them in a PWE.





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Nope. I asked the exact question I intended. Thanks.

In discussing the events leading up to this thread, my question is was tracking ever provided, i.e. at initial shipping, or after buyer had to ask for it, or any point leading up to the creation of this thread. The allegations are that buyer asked for it several times and was refused. It's important to know if that is being denied, because that information will matter to many potential buyers.

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Nope. I asked the exact question I intended. Thanks.

In discussing the events leading up to this thread, my question is was tracking ever provided, i.e. at initial shipping, or after buyer had to ask for it, or any point leading up to the creation of this thread. The allegations are that buyer asked for it several times and was refused. It's important to know if that is being denied, because that information will matter to many potential buyers.
Um, your question was right there in quotes. Now you are trying to explain it was actually different? While also saying it was exactly what you intended?

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that the mailing label is somehow difficult to read. I can tell you that if it ever gets to the "dead letter" facility in Atlanta you can say good bye.

With a genuine tracking number that can be scanned, I predict success.

I once had a package that tracking indicated had a stop at the USPS facility nearest my mailing address, but it just kept going to Florida. After a very long wait of several weeks it did arrive.
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