Cards From The B/S/T Finally Arrived!

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

He acknowledged he got the picture after this thread was made. That's not what I am worried about. I want to know if a tracking number was ever provided before a thread had to be made. James claims to have asked for it and been denied. Seller (and Leon) both refuse to answer the question if it was provided previously.

Here is what James claims in post 34:



I get that seller then provided tracking later. My problem is with this behavior of never giving the tracking, even when asked, until a thread gets made.

"No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer."

I think maybe you meant to ask a different question?

Personally I would not expect $15 of cards to be sent with tracking. My thinking is why would you pay $5 to ship $15 of cards, just put them in a PWE.





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[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

"No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer."

I think maybe you meant to ask a different question?

Personally I would not expect $15 of cards to be sent with tracking. My thinking is why would you pay $5 to ship $15 of cards, just put them in a PWE.





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Why does it keep coming back to $15?

Why do you just seem incapable of understanding that these are 1948 Bowman cards? Not cheap reprints. Please try to find 6 48 Bowman for $15 anywhere. It's the cards, not the money! Please try to be rational.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Why does it keep coming back to $15?

Probably because you once again started a thread ostensibly just to complain and create drama - (you weren't willing to out the seller, and thus the initial point seemed to be for little else...) and that (the $15) was something easy to latch onto in regards to the value of the thread when it became known.

I will admit that all this subsequently became a lot more interesting. But I'm still not sure I'm any smarter today than yesterday evening when I first dove into it.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Why does it keep coming back to $15?



Why do you just seem incapable of understanding that these are 1948 Bowman cards? Not cheap reprints. Please try to find 6 48 Bowman for $15 anywhere. It's the cards, not the money! Please try to be rational.

James, forgive me for saying this, but the most irrational thing about all of this is that you thought you were getting screwed over a small dollar deal, by somebody who has made deals with everybody on this board, including you, and then you felt the need to publicly vent over it.



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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

"No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer."

I think maybe you meant to ask a different question?

Personally I would not expect $15 of cards to be sent with tracking. My thinking is why would you pay $5 to ship $15 of cards, just put them in a PWE.


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Depends on the cards and buyer. In this case they are cards James really likes/wants so I could see paying for the tracking/better packaging.

Plus shipping is different for everyone. Personally when selling or buying if you/I want to save a few bucks and use a PWE there is usually zero guarantee on delivery. With tracking if they do not show up I expect to be refunded or give one.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

"No one will answer whether that was ever provided to the buyer."

I think maybe you meant to ask a different question?

Personally I would not expect $15 of cards to be sent with tracking. My thinking is why would you pay $5 to ship $15 of cards, just put them in a PWE.





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Nope. I asked the exact question I intended. Thanks.

In discussing the events leading up to this thread, my question is was tracking ever provided, i.e. at initial shipping, or after buyer had to ask for it, or any point leading up to the creation of this thread. The allegations are that buyer asked for it several times and was refused. It's important to know if that is being denied, because that information will matter to many potential buyers.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Nope. I asked the exact question I intended. Thanks.

In discussing the events leading up to this thread, my question is was tracking ever provided, i.e. at initial shipping, or after buyer had to ask for it, or any point leading up to the creation of this thread. The allegations are that buyer asked for it several times and was refused. It's important to know if that is being denied, because that information will matter to many potential buyers.

Um, your question was right there in quotes. Now you are trying to explain it was actually different? While also saying it was exactly what you intended?

Got it.

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[Bpm0014]

The buyer is James Ingram.

There was a late 80's R&B song by James Ingram: "Baby, Come to Me"

Was the 80's singer a psychic? And actually singing about 6 1948 Bowman cards?

THIS is the question that needs answered...

[JollyElm]

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[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Um, your question was right there in quotes. Now you are trying to explain it was actually different? While also saying it was exactly what you intended?

Got it.

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For someone who thinks he knows reading comprehension, you sure don't understand the rules of textual interpretation. I said what I meant, and meant what I said within the context of this thread and the information we have been given. OP clearly stated he was given the photo after creating the thread. So if you interpret the question, "Did he ever provide the tracking?" As meaning after the thread was made and after OP already said he got it, then I don't know what to tell you. That's tour error, not mine.

Got it?

[sbfinley]

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

For someone who thinks he knows reading comprehension, you sure don't understand the rules of textual interpretation. I said what I meant, and meant what I said within the context of this thread and the information we have been given. OP clearly stated he was given the photo after creating the thread. So if you interpret the question, "Did he ever provide the tracking?" As meaning after the thread was made and after OP already said he got it, then I don't know what to tell you. That's tour error, not mine.

Got it?

Oh, The Rules of Textual Interpretation!

How could I have missed that. Now everything makes sense.

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[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Oh, The Rules of Textual Interpretation!

How could I have missed that. Now everything makes sense.

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I guess you aren't the reading comprehension czar you pretend to be.

[philliesfan]

Hey Ben. Nice Ted Williams cards......Nice the way you pieced them together.
Bob

[Smanzari]

Its gonna show. Nothing against anyone here, but in my 10 years + and probably 1000+ transactions on the board, its been realized Handwriting is not an average strong point of the members here - unless its truly illegible and missing things, someone will decipher it and send it in the right direction. I've honestly gotten a few "How did it make its!?" haha

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Oh, The Rules of Textual Interpretation!

How could I have missed that. Now everything makes sense.

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Interpreting Texts..... Who Knew!

Yes - It DOES have a life of it's own.....

Have you ever watched a movie with friends and then held a discussion afterwards in which you all completely disagree about how good the movie was? This is strange because surely you have all experienced exactly the same film, and so you should all have exactly the same response, right?

Of course, it is not so simple. Depending on the type of text that was experienced, the cultural backgrounds of the various audience members, and countless other reasons, it is possible for different people to respond to different texts in different ways.

Such things interest us in English classes, but there is an important clarification to make here: we are not focused on whether a text is good or bad, but rather how effective it is.

There are three broad questions we can ask to help us determine this:

What is the intended purpose of the text?

How does the creator attempt to achieve their intended purpose?

How effectively does the creator achieve their intended purpose?

Or, put more bluntly:

Why was the text created?

How was the text created?

How well was the text created?

Just as different people will agree or disagree about how good or bad a movie is, so too will different people offer different answers to these three questions.

In other words, everyone can offer a unique interpretation of a text.

Interpretation - a critical explanation of what a creator is trying to achieve in a given text.

When it comes to offering a textual interpretation, what matters is the evidence we use to support our claims. And what form should this evidence take? To make a convincing case in favor of our unique interpretation, we need to make specific references to the elements and techniques used by the creator to communicate meaning.

This is the reason we spend so much of our time in English classes pulling texts apart to see how they work. Once we can identify and understand the different "pieces" of a text, we can use this knowledge to establish what a creator is trying to achieve, and evaluate how effectively they accomplish this.

Importantly, this process involves finding connections between the different elements and techniques within a text. Just as the engine of a car needs lots of small components to work together to generate motion, so too do the different components of a text need to work together to create meaning.

Sharing Findings

Having formed an interpretation of what a creator is attempting to accomplish through their work, it is no good keeping this interpretation to ourselves—we need to share it!

This process begins with classroom discussion. Here, we have a chance to share our interpretations verbally with one another. It is through this sharing of ideas that we begin to unlock the underlying messages within texts, often catching things we missed the first time.

Our final interpretation of a text is usually shared in a more formal manner. This could be an essay or oral presentation, or some other medium which allows us to express our ideas in a comprehensive way. Here, we need to put together everything we have learned from our analysis to offer a convincing interpretation for our audience.

Importantly, we should not be afraid to change our interpretations throughout any stage of this process. Other students may challenge us in classroom discussions, and we may receive specific critiques in our draft feedback. This is good, as it encourages us to reconsider our interpretations, and improve them if the feedback is justified.

Top tip! Be willing to alter your interpretations based on what others have to say.

Literary texts are wonderful things, and the more we learn about how they work, the more we can appreciate their aesthetic qualities. We can also learn to admire or critique what they are trying to achieve, and then share our unique interpretations with others.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

Interpreting Texts..... Who Knew!

Yes - It DOES have a life of it's own.....

Have you ever watched a movie with friends and then held a discussion afterwards in which you all completely disagree about how good the movie was? This is strange because surely you have all experienced exactly the same film, and so you should all have exactly the same response, right?

Of course, it is not so simple. Depending on the type of text that was experienced, the cultural backgrounds of the various audience members, and countless other reasons, it is possible for different people to respond to different texts in different ways.

Such things interest us in English classes, but there is an important clarification to make here: we are not focused on whether a text is good or bad, but rather how effective it is.

There are three broad questions we can ask to help us determine this:

What is the intended purpose of the text?

How does the creator attempt to achieve their intended purpose?

How effectively does the creator achieve their intended purpose?

Or, put more bluntly:

Why was the text created?

How was the text created?

How well was the text created?

Just as different people will agree or disagree about how good or bad a movie is, so too will different people offer different answers to these three questions.

In other words, everyone can offer a unique interpretation of a text.

Interpretation - a critical explanation of what a creator is trying to achieve in a given text.

When it comes to offering a textual interpretation, what matters is the evidence we use to support our claims. And what form should this evidence take? To make a convincing case in favor of our unique interpretation, we need to make specific references to the elements and techniques used by the creator to communicate meaning.

This is the reason we spend so much of our time in English classes pulling texts apart to see how they work. Once we can identify and understand the different "pieces" of a text, we can use this knowledge to establish what a creator is trying to achieve, and evaluate how effectively they accomplish this.

Importantly, this process involves finding connections between the different elements and techniques within a text. Just as the engine of a car needs lots of small components to work together to generate motion, so too do the different components of a text need to work together to create meaning.
Sharing Findings

Having formed an interpretation of what a creator is attempting to accomplish through their work, it is no good keeping this interpretation to ourselves—we need to share it!

This process begins with classroom discussion. Here, we have a chance to share our interpretations verbally with one another. It is through this sharing of ideas that we begin to unlock the underlying messages within texts, often catching things we missed the first time.

Our final interpretation of a text is usually shared in a more formal manner. This could be an essay or oral presentation, or some other medium which allows us to express our ideas in a comprehensive way. Here, we need to put together everything we have learned from our analysis to offer a convincing interpretation for our audience.

Importantly, we should not be afraid to change our interpretations throughout any stage of this process. Other students may challenge us in classroom discussions, and we may receive specific critiques in our draft feedback. This is good, as it encourages us to reconsider our interpretations, and improve them if the feedback is justified.

Top tip! Be willing to alter your interpretations based on what others have to say.

Literary texts are wonderful things, and the more we learn about how they work, the more we can appreciate their aesthetic qualities. We can also learn to admire or critique what they are trying to achieve, and then share our unique interpretations with others.

Yes, communication can be complicated, nuances can be missed, and people absorb and interpret information differently. We are all familiar with the sarcastic comeback "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."

Choosing to treat Net54 communications as individual works of art is one way to look at it, I guess.

[Keith H. Thompson]

that the mailing label is somehow difficult to read. I can tell you that if it ever gets to the "dead letter" facility in Atlanta you can say good bye.

With a genuine tracking number that can be scanned, I predict success.

I once had a package that tracking indicated had a stop at the USPS facility nearest my mailing address, but it just kept going to Florida. After a very long wait of several weeks it did arrive.