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Old 05-04-2024, 07:20 PM
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1044. Inductionary Reasoning
The profit-driven strategy of buying up cards at low prices (in advance of the inevitable spike to come) of a player you feel stands a better than average shot of finally being voted into the Hall of Fame by one of the ‘veterans’ committees.
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1044. Coopersdownpayment
The strategy of buying up cards of a player you feel stands a better than average shot of getting into the Hall of Fame through the voting of one of the various ‘veterans’ subcommittees.
Absoloutely! Ha.

Not that being "fair" matters too much in such a money-driven hobby, but my purchases haven't moved any markets as far as I can tell. Many of the purchases go down over many years and I bid below market on everything.

I lose 95%+ of the time. I'm only interested in deals on these slabs that will sit for years/decade+ since it's tieing up money.
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1044. Coopersdownpayment
The strategy of buying up cards of a player you feel stands a better than average shot of getting into the Hall of Fame through the voting of one of the various ‘veterans’ subcommittees.
BainesGains. Profits made from speculating on Harold Baines cards just before his surprise HOF election.
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I hope Ross Barnes is inducted as a Pioneer.
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I second Lefty O'doul and Billy Pierce.
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BainesGains. Profits made from speculating on Harold Baines cards just before his surprise HOF election.
I had this one from way back when (Whoa! Has it already been that long??):

192. Raising Baines
The tumult caused by lesser players being enshrined in the Hall of Fame.
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To get an idea of how hard it will be for a 19th century player to get in, here are the winners of SABR's Overlooked 19th Century Baseball Legends annual election.

Besides these players, among recent nominees are Tommy Bond, Charlie Buffinton, Lave Cross, Paul Hines, Grant “Home Run” Johnson, Dick McBride, Jim McCormick, Cal McVey, Jim Mutrie, Dickey Pearce, Lip Pike, Al Reach, Jimmy Ryan, Ben Shibe, George Stovey, Chris Von der Ahe, and George Van Haltren.

If 19th century fans are lucky, maybe two of these will be among the eight to be nominated. And there's no guarantee any of them will get on the ballot because they are competing with players from 1900-1980 and I have a feeling Luis Tiant, Dick Allen, Thurman Munson, Ken Boyer, Dave Parker, Tommy John, etc. will be more familiar than any of these players...not to mention Sherry Magee, Wes Ferrell, Stan Hack, Vern Stephens, Bob Johnson, Bobby Veach, Vada Pinson, Babe Adams, Billy Pierce, Wilbur Cooper, Bucky Walters, etc.).

And once they are on the ballot, they will need 75% of the votes.
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Apparently, the hall of fame has changed the committee format again.

In September of 2020, I made an excel spreadsheet for the hall of fame election schedule. It was this:

Early Baseball - 1871-1949
Golden Days - 1950 - 1969
Modern Baseball - 1970 - 1987
Today's Game - 1988 - Present

The Modern and Today's Game committees were to each meet every two years.
The Early Baseball and Golden Days committees were to meet in 2022, and then every five years.

Now, it appears they've reduced it to three committees as follows:

Classic Era - Everything before 1980 - Meets in Dec 2024
Contemporary Era (Players) - 1980 to the Present - Meets in Dec 2025
Contemporary Era (Mgrs/Execs/Umps) - 1980 to Present - Meets Dec 2026

Each of the three committees will meet every third year.

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I'd vote for the following:

Bill Dahlen
Jimmy Ryan
Lefty O'Doul
Dick Allen
Tommy John
Luis Tiant

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I'd vote for the following:

Bill Dahlen
Jimmy Ryan
Lefty O'Doul
Dick Allen
Tommy John
Luis Tiant

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Apparently, the hall of fame has changed the committee format again.

In September of 2020, I made an excel spreadsheet for the hall of fame election schedule. It was this:

Early Baseball - 1871-1949
Golden Days - 1950 - 1969
Modern Baseball - 1970 - 1987
Today's Game - 1988 - Present

The Modern and Today's Game committees were to each meet every two years.
The Early Baseball and Golden Days committees were to meet in 2022, and then every five years.

Now, it appears they've reduced it to three committees as follows:

Classic Era - Everything before 1980 - Meets in Dec 2024
Contemporary Era (Players) - 1980 to the Present - Meets in Dec 2025
Contemporary Era (Mgrs/Execs/Umps) - 1980 to Present - Meets Dec 2026

Each of the three committees will meet every third year.

Steve
Right. At least with the previous committees, the earlier players had a chance (and occasionally one would get in). Now it will be very difficult because they are competing with a larger pool of players.
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