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Old 12-11-2023, 02:11 AM
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at least when they started, and I will presume this is still true, they use really good sports artists to do the work. I think they are very attractive for the most part and a good addition to a vintage collection with a modern twist And in many cases, if you can't afford the vintage cards, this makes a nice sub with the older style paintings.

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Old 12-11-2023, 06:48 AM
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Do they take requests? There are many a player that never had a card, those I would buy.
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Old 12-11-2023, 07:14 AM
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I think they are attractive, but not really cards because of age and licensing. If I bought one (and would if the right subject appeared) it would require a different mental head space than my "cards" purchases.
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Another cabinet-sized sample

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Old 12-11-2023, 11:36 AM
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I don't have any of them, but I do like them a lot.
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Another card maker, Banty Red, produces high-quality cards as well. They don't seem to sell as high as Helmar, but have quite a following. The Banty Reds I have came from Etsy, before inflation due to Covid. They seem to be exclusive to eBay these days. They aren't for everyone, and unlike Helmar, they use photography and colorized photography rather than paintings. I like the ones I have; they fill a niche in my collection. But I am leery of the way they both are auctioned on eBay. Maybe I'm wrong, but something just doesn't appear to be on the up and up with these auctions.
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Not going to beat a dead horse as there is plenty, especially in the early days of me exposing the fraud of specifically one company. I see no real actual value in any of them, but if someone likes it for fun and no investment than please go ahead.

I just really have serious reservations about the producers of these that age product and purposely leave off production dates (especially when using the name of an actual vintage card producer to throw off google searches). I have seen these misrepresented on the secondary market far more times than I can count. If they are "art", they should be originals, if we are going for prints as semantics then the artist should be signing or credited and they should be dated.

Oh, and only one started off misrepresenting the product as some legit issue for a product premium, when it was easily found it was the other way around by creating tiny subcontracted product runs with no distribution contracts to legitimize the premise of this being some food issue.

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Do they take requests? There are many a player that never had a card, those I would buy.
Not sure about requests, but they have produced cards of many players that never had a card before (including House of David and International Stars). You can do a search on their website of everything they've produced - and clicking on a player's name takes you to a nice gallery of all their Helmar cards.

https://helmarbrewing.com/players/
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Charles is a great guy and many years ago I helped write the back of some of the Goudey and T202 series cards. I personally really like the team postcards that used T206 images. They are made with wood and have a really cool 3d effect
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