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Old 12-31-2018, 05:37 PM
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Default Bob....

I'm in complete agreement with you....

Ted....I hear you, but it would be 1000 % easier to just sign a piece instead of cooking up a scrap or ghost....how could you add cardboard without extensive work??? or create ghosts and try to wash out color ect.....all undertakings that would require extensive work for the profit involved....some almost insane to do(like adding extra borders ect)

also, magie and doyle have been tried to be faked, but they are super focused on now, and can be fairly easy to detect(black lights, 20x loupes).....I'm sure there is a possibility, but no way like the ease of signing an auto....I hate to say it, but I'm sure many kids could do a great job at it


trimming cards and getting them holdered also occurs, but prob these above mentioned things- fake doyle, magies, creating scraps ect would be much more difficult or take some kind of advanced skill to try to pull it off.....I'm sure there are some that have probably slipped by, but I'm going to venture not like the scale of a potential autograph deceptions...

too easy to pick up a pen or sharpie and practice...thousands could probably even do a great job....

unfortunately, no real 100% way to tell with autos....unless you got it yourself or have some kind of provenance, family, photos ect.....and even then the piece could be swapped out....

unfortunately, this scammer with the t206 signing counterfeit sham shed light on the ugly proverbial elephant in the room....and has brought the skeptical perception now on autos which sucks!


if I was going to get a legit auto, I would want a check or legal document or a photo to accompany/be the piece for added value/confirmation of being legit...

Ted....do not want to bash auto collecting, I know you have a beautiful auto collection and do not want to take away any of that prestige, or thunder from anyones hard work and money and years they have pumped into it.....

just very disappointing that a few money hungry greedy basatrds ruin shit for many of the legit pieces.....now a lot of doubt is raised on all autos, not like it hasn't in the past, but the skepticism is even worse now that tps are fooled a lot more....autos are just too easy to fake

just plain sucks!
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