W600 Sporting Life Cabinet Honus Wagner PSA 7..wow

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by Steve D

Here are the other cards from the collection, according to PSA's database (every single one is listed as a Pop 1/0):

There are other HOFers that were just graded as part of this collection as wel. The only reason why they are 1/0 is because PSA just started differentiating the four different mounts. All of these cards were known to exist.

Condition wise, this is the finest collection of W600 Hall of Famers that I know of. I would love to see them come to the market.

[SMPEP]

Those card doctors are creating some nice beauties these days!

Gotta have it!

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

Those card doctors are creating some nice beauties these days!

Gotta have it!

Seems like the response now every time someone shows a really nice anything. Yes, everything really nice is doctored somehow and fake.

Nothing personal but these responses always come off like a lot of sour grapes.

[irv]

Originally Posted by benchod

Omg
Those are fantastic

I concur!!

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

There are other HOFers that were just graded as part of this collection as wel. The only reason why they are 1/0 is because PSA just started differentiating the four different mounts. All of these cards were known to exist.

Condition wise, this is the finest collection of W600 Hall of Famers that I know of. I would love to see them come to the market.

Anyone know where these were found or who they belong too?

I am not implying being Dr'd one bit but it always amazes me that something this old and what it/they are made of can be in this good of condition.

I assume these were likely placed between book pgs many many years ago or into something I am not familiar with?
Needless to say, I am glad the person(s) these belonged to took such great care of them!

[SMPEP]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Seems like the response now every time someone shows a really nice anything. Yes, everything really nice is doctored somehow and fake.

Nothing personal but these responses always come off like a lot of sour grapes.

No sour grapes at all. Not something I collect. Not something I want actually.

But everytime someone peels back the curtain on a big card (the T206 Wagner, that WWG Gehrig recently, etc.) we find proof of card doctoring.

So anyone with a shred of common sense knows that's as likely to be undoctored as Kaley Cuoco's boobs.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

No sour grapes at all. Not something I collect. Not something I want actually.

But everytime someone peels back the curtain on a big card (the T206 Wagner, that WWG Gehrig recently, etc.) we find proof of card doctoring.

So anyone with a shred of common sense knows that's as likely to be undoctored as Kaley Cuoco's boobs.

A lot of people enjoy fake boobs.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

There are other HOFers that were just graded as part of this collection as wel. The only reason why they are 1/0 is because PSA just started differentiating the four different mounts. All of these cards were known to exist.

Condition wise, this is the finest collection of W600 Hall of Famers that I know of. I would love to see them come to the market.

+1 as I would think just the price of the Wagner or the Cobb would double what the cost of the entire group cost back in 1991.

[A2000]

Christy Mathewson

[irv]

Originally Posted by the-illini

Amazing card but I would be nervous as hell about the corners getting dinged when it inevitably floats around in that oversized holder...

Those holders look like they use the same/similar black gasket as SGC?

I can't imagine those cards are in there loose, but I have no idea?

[jb217676]

Originally Posted by irv

Those holders look like they use the same/similar black gasket as SGC?

I can't imagine those cards are in there loose, but I have no idea?

No gasket Dale, they were scanned using the "lid up" technique.

[pherbener]

Love the Matty!!

[A2000]

Lajoie

[A2000]

Wow

[A2000]

I'd be happy to pick up just a 'common' player from this batch.

[irv]

Originally Posted by jb217676

No gasket Dale, they were scanned using the "lid up" technique.

So there is nothing from stopping those cards from moving around in there, Jeff?
All look perfectly centered/square in those slabs.

Personally, I'd be afraid to pick them up/move them if they can move around easily?

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

There are other HOFers that were just graded as part of this collection as wel. The only reason why they are 1/0 is because PSA just started differentiating the four different mounts. All of these cards were known to exist.

Condition wise, this is the finest collection of W600 Hall of Famers that I know of. I would love to see them come to the market.

Now that PSA gives a better description on W600s by including the Cabinet mount type, wonder how much would they charge to reholder ones graded before the change? This one of Cy is type 2

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

This one of Cy is type 2

That is a Type 1.

[benchod]

As usual, thanks to Kevin and Scott for sharing their knowledge

[jerrys]

I wrote to Joe Orlando yesterday to inquire about the new way PSA has listed W600s on their pop chart. As follows:

Jerry Spillman 10:48 PM (21 hours ago)
to Joe

Hi Joe,

Just observed your latest graded W600 cabinets. Noticed the design type has been added to all these newly graded cabinets - after all these years. All the previously graded cabinets are now disregarded even though many are exactly the same design type. Why must rare cabinets deceptively made to appear unique on the PSA pop chart when they are not. Why be dishonest with the collector who depends on an unbiased pop list. SHAME.

In browsing the first few new W600s on the pop chart I find:

Frank Chance - Uniform-Type 1* - scan shows Chance in Street Clothes - not in uniform.
*
John Chesbro - NY AL Type 2 below John Chesbro NY AL - they could be the same type - making 1 of 1 false.
*
Ty Cobb - Type 4* ALL Cobb W600s are type 4. How can this new cabinet be different than the Cobb listed above this new 1 of 1?
*
Should I go on?

Jerry

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Joe Orlando 12:11 PM (8 hours ago)

to me


We can handle this over the phone.
*
You have my number.
*
Joe

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I know the Chance picture is incorrect but that has nothing to do with PSA.

I called earlier today - no response.

Apparently he is not able to defend the change.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Call me a Pollyanna, but somehow I don't think coming in with both guns blazing is necessarily the best approach...

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by jerrys

I wrote to Joe Orlando yesterday to inquire about the new way PSA has listed W600s on their pop chart. As follows:

Jerry Spillman 10:48 PM (21 hours ago)
to Joe

Hi Joe,

Just observed your latest graded W600 cabinets. Noticed the design type has been added to all these newly graded cabinets - after all these years. All the previously graded cabinets are now disregarded even though many are exactly the same design type. Why must rare cabinets deceptively made to appear unique on the PSA pop chart when they are not. Why be dishonest with the collector who depends on an unbiased pop list. SHAME.

In browsing the first few new W600s on the pop chart I find:

Frank Chance - Uniform-Type 1* - scan shows Chance in Street Clothes - not in uniform.
*
John Chesbro - NY AL Type 2 below John Chesbro NY AL - they could be the same type - making 1 of 1 false.
*
Ty Cobb - Type 4* ALL Cobb W600s are type 4. How can this new cabinet be different than the Cobb listed above this new 1 of 1?
*
Should I go on?

Jerry

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Joe Orlando 12:11 PM (8 hours ago)

to me


We can handle this over the phone.
*
You have my number.
*
Joe

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I know the Chance picture is incorrect but that has nothing to do with PSA.

I called earlier today - no response.

Apparently he is not able to defend the change.

Exactly... That's what I was saying. What's going to happen to everyone who has paid for their service? Are they going to have two different pop charts on literally the same card and mount.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Exactly... That's what I was saying. What's going to happen to everyone who has paid for their service? Are they going to have two different pop charts on literally the same card and mount.

They are listed separately. All Cobb's are type 4, but now that they are caraloging by types, they appear separately.

[irv]

Originally Posted by jerrys

I wrote to Joe Orlando yesterday to inquire about the new way PSA has listed W600s on their pop chart.
Joe Orlando 12:11 PM (8 hours ago)

to me


We can handle this over the phone.
*
You have my number.
*
Joe
..............

I called earlier today - no response.

Apparently he is not able to defend the change.

Curious, Jerry, if you ever received a return phone call or if you called again?

[jerrys]

Hi irv,

No further calls. I am sure when he answered me he was unaware of what I was complaining about. After learning what it was he could not do or admit anything.

I am a customer and expect an answer - I will persist.