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I've always had mixed thoughts about this.
"Old" Inventory was often just shoved to the back of a warehouse back then. In fact it's a practice that continued well into the 80's and 90's although it had minimized by the early 80's. It was especially true for anything the warehouse guy thought might be saleable in some way. Topps was also mostly in the business of selling new products, so they may not have cared much to have a look at the warehouse even if they were asked. (Or they knew 52 highs brought a premium and "couldn't find any" ) So the "dumped off a barge" didn't make a lot of sense. But the story stayed pretty consistent over time, and 52 Highs are pretty hard to find compared to the lower series. Since they weren't printing them themselves, I think it's possible they got a bunch in right about the time they realized sales weren't going to be what they'd hoped. It's possible they didn't have the space to shift them to the back corner. It also might be that what got dumped was sheets or bulk packed cards from the printer. Why wrap a product that won't sell? And storing sheets or boxes full of bulk cards might have been a nuisance. In that view, dumping them makes sense. Having A million plus of something out there is a bit risky. Especially since trash haulers are fairly well known for keeping any really good "finds" - A long and for some well regarded tradition. 53s were hauled away? Maybe by then they realized that if they couldn't move their million+ leftovers almost nobody else could either? I think it's possible something survived underwater. They were wax wrapped, and pressure might have caused them to seal ...........Well, I can dream anyway. (Possible but very unlikely) Barges tend to use the same spots, so there would be a whole lot of "stuff" to dig through even knowing the exact spot. Steve B |
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I thought the ink used on '52 high number cards was water soluble. If so there wouldn't be much left of the images even if the cardboard did survive. Hypothetically, might lead to some interesting ghost images on the backs of cards..... Z |
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That is the first time I have heard of that. Are you saying all the series before that were printed using different, non-soluble ink?
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The Hi#'s are certainly tougher than any other series today. They are not necessarily tougher in High Grade and are sometimes easier than some other numbers, but overall without regard for condition they are the toughest regular issue non error/variation topps baseball cards to find.
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The process works by having plates that will absorb moisture from water treated so there are areas that repel water that the oil based ink can stick to. So water soluble ink wouldn't work well at all. The new vegetable oil based inks may be water soluble, but at the time they either didn't exist or would have been really unusual. Steve B |
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Sorry, Zach, if it came across like that? I wasn't insinuating you were. I had just never heard that before and was wondering if you heard something different about the first few series?
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Irv, sorry was travelling. I hate it when work gets in the way of fun. I am not stating the series were printed the same. My experience comes from a 19512 Topps high number card that I smudged the ink and then I realized the card had gotten a drop of water spilled on it.
I will see if I can find the card and scan it..... |
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My latest post is up on this subject (and Topps Vennies in general): http://toppsarchives.blogspot.com/20...-dimaggio.html
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