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Old 08-24-2016, 01:43 PM
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I would tend to think that people are more likely to grade the better looking examples and that there would be a disproportionate number of the better looking stubs graded compared with lesser condition examples.
Even better for my graded example!
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Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! Your ticket keeps getting better and better. Without changing at all.
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How about the fact that getting it graded shows that it has not been altered.
That would be my concern . I would think a raw ticket off eBay could be trimmed , recolored or doctored in some way. I know of o was dropping a few grand it would be nice to know it was unaltered.
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How about the fact that getting it graded shows that it has not been altered.
That would be my concern . I would think a raw ticket off eBay could be trimmed , recolored or doctored in some way. I know of o was dropping a few grand it would be nice to know it was unaltered.
Valid point I guess that is that .
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Or owners who like to protect their investment, owners who aren't experts in ticket authentication, owners who are reasonably skeptical of Internet transactions, owners who are trying to profit off of their purchase or even owners who enjoy collecting graded tickets.
I don't know why people continue spouting the same old stuff. Despite the fact that the TPAs and their proponents keep saying it, getting a ticket graded DOES NOT protect your investment. As a perfect example. the OP bought this ungraded ticket for more than any graded ticket of the same game has sold in the past few years. So how exactly did grading raise or protect the value of his ticket. If anything, the exact opposite happened. His purchase raised the value of theirs.



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I would tend to think that people are more likely to grade the better looking examples and that there would be a disproportionate number of the better looking stubs graded compared with lesser condition examples.
I tend to disagree with this as well. I think what is correct is that ones sold through auction houses are more likely to be graded as it is the standard operating procedure of most auction houses to grade/authenticate/slab everything they can to try and eliminate any responsibility they have for anything. Plus by promoting the propaganda about how being authenticated makes thing more valuable, they can inflate bids and make more money. The items haven't changed, but the prices have because someone you know nothing about, hiding behind a large corporation, has given their stamp of approval.
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someone you know nothing about, hiding behind a large corporation, has given their stamp of approval.
For all we know the "someone" is a twelve year old boy who is flipping a coin to help him decide what grade to give.
I have always found it very annoying that they cloak the identities of authenticators behind closed doors and blanket certs. What are they afraid of, daylight is good.
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I don't know why people continue spouting the same old stuff. Despite the fact that the TPAs and their proponents keep saying it, getting a ticket graded DOES NOT protect your investment. As a perfect example. the OP bought this ungraded ticket for more than any graded ticket of the same game has sold in the past few years. So how exactly did grading raise or protect the value of his ticket. If anything, the exact opposite happened. His purchase raised the value of theirs.
All the tickets that have been linked to this thread have been graded without a numeric grade. A PSA 2 sold ten days ago for $3,900.

https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/lo..._cubs_ticket_s

So there, PSA protects your investment.
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:14 PM
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Glad you were able to finally find ONE singular example to prove your point.
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Glad you were able to finally find ONE singular example to prove your point.
Here's the worlds ugliest ticket getting $3,100 because it's a PSA 2:
https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/lo...called_shot__g

It has a program with it, but the program isn't worth particularly much.

If you can find a PSA 3 or higher Called Shot ticket go for less than $2,800 you would have some sort of argument I guess. You seem convinced though, so could you send a link?

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It has a program with it, but the program isn't worth particularly much.
Oh, really? It's a scored Game 3 program. It's worth quite a bit.
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Here's the worlds ugliest ticket getting $3,100 because it's a PSA 2
There's a sucker born every minute.
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There is no reason to continue this discussion with you if you think a scored WS game program from the Called Shot game isn't particularly valuable. If you really think that, then there is nothing else to discuss.
There are many more of that ticket in existence than scored programs from that game. An advanced Ruth or WS collector would likely pay as much, perhaps more, for it than the ticket. The tickets are desirable, but aren't really rare. OTOH, I can't remember ever seeing a scored program from that game. Not being sarcastic, but does anyone know of an example of a scored program from that game being sold previously? IF so, do you know when it was and how much it sold for?
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All the tickets that have been linked to this thread have been graded without a numeric grade. A PSA 2 sold ten days ago for $3,900.

https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/lo..._cubs_ticket_s

So there, PSA protects your investment.
Just goes to show that there are still some people out there who drink the Kool Aid without asking questions.
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Just goes to show that there are still some people out there who drink the Kool Aid without asking questions.
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