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Old 08-24-2016, 03:10 PM
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I don't know why people continue spouting the same old stuff. Despite the fact that the TPAs and their proponents keep saying it, getting a ticket graded DOES NOT protect your investment. As a perfect example. the OP bought this ungraded ticket for more than any graded ticket of the same game has sold in the past few years. So how exactly did grading raise or protect the value of his ticket. If anything, the exact opposite happened. His purchase raised the value of theirs.
All the tickets that have been linked to this thread have been graded without a numeric grade. A PSA 2 sold ten days ago for $3,900.

https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/lo..._cubs_ticket_s

So there, PSA protects your investment.
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Old 08-24-2016, 03:14 PM
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Glad you were able to finally find ONE singular example to prove your point.
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Glad you were able to finally find ONE singular example to prove your point.
Here's the worlds ugliest ticket getting $3,100 because it's a PSA 2:
https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/lo...called_shot__g

It has a program with it, but the program isn't worth particularly much.

If you can find a PSA 3 or higher Called Shot ticket go for less than $2,800 you would have some sort of argument I guess. You seem convinced though, so could you send a link?

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It has a program with it, but the program isn't worth particularly much.
Oh, really? It's a scored Game 3 program. It's worth quite a bit.
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Oh, really? It's a scored Game 3 program. It's worth quite a bit.
Maybe $500-600. The lot sold for $3,100 so the ticket sold for around $2,500-2,600. Are you saying that this ticket would've sold for more if It weren't graded? It's missing an entire corner and looks burnt. Far nicer raw tickets have gone for less.
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Maybe $500-600. The lot sold for $3,100 so the ticket sold for around $2,500-2,600. Are you saying that this ticket would've sold for more if It weren't graded? It's missing an entire corner and looks burnt. Far nicer raw tickets have gone for less.
Which leads to entire other point about how stupid ticket grading is. If tickets are graded using the same scale as cards, which is what was posted earlier in this thread, how in the world did that one get a 2? What cards do you know of looking burnt and missing corners that would get a 2? Even more of a sham.
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Here's the worlds ugliest ticket getting $3,100 because it's a PSA 2
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There is no reason to continue this discussion with you if you think a scored WS game program from the Called Shot game isn't particularly valuable. If you really think that, then there is nothing else to discuss.
There are many more of that ticket in existence than scored programs from that game. An advanced Ruth or WS collector would likely pay as much, perhaps more, for it than the ticket. The tickets are desirable, but aren't really rare. OTOH, I can't remember ever seeing a scored program from that game. Not being sarcastic, but does anyone know of an example of a scored program from that game being sold previously? IF so, do you know when it was and how much it sold for?
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The ticket is worth 2500+ The program is worth aRond $500 ... I've owned 5 or more of both... True only a few were scored... The only other game was game 4 and it was Ruths last w.s. Game that the program could be for if it was unscored.
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I find it hard to believe that a scored program from that game is only $500, the same as unscored. Do you have any links to sold ones?
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I just realized, the one that just sold in Goldin was also graded a 2. How in the world is it possible that both are 2's? Who graded those and why aren't they being held accountable for this type of nonsense? Is there no quality control?
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There is no reason to continue this discussion with you if you think a scored WS game program from the Called Shot game isn't particularly valuable. If you really think that, then there is nothing else to discuss.
There are many more of that ticket in existence than scored programs from that game. An advanced Ruth or WS collector would likely pay as much, perhaps more, for it than the ticket. The tickets are desirable, but aren't really rare. OTOH, I can't remember ever seeing a scored program from that game. Not being sarcastic, but does anyone know of an example of a scored program from that game being sold previously? IF so, do you know when it was and how much it sold for?
Scored programs sell all the time:

$637

$650

No bid - $200 minimum

Here are scored program/ticket combos with BEAUTIFUL tickets that all sold for less than the ugly PSA 2:

$500 Less

Also $500 Less
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Ok. I stand corrected on that value.
Still $2500 for the ticket is going rate.

Any response on the lack of quality control to the grading?
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Ok. I stand corrected on that value.
Still $2500 for the ticket is going rate.

Any response on the lack of quality control to the grading?
Not really. I think they do a better job than most, but make more mistakes than they should. PSA numeric grades carry a premium, why? People can be idiots. Those idiots help fund my hobby, so I'm not going to complain.
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All the tickets that have been linked to this thread have been graded without a numeric grade. A PSA 2 sold ten days ago for $3,900.

https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/lo..._cubs_ticket_s

So there, PSA protects your investment.
Just goes to show that there are still some people out there who drink the Kool Aid without asking questions.
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Just goes to show that there are still some people out there who drink the Kool Aid without asking questions.
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