Anyone watching probstein auctions

[jimjim]

Not like this is new news, but these auctions really get me mad with all of the shill bidding. I am watching 3 identical items on ebay. They are all PSA. I mean they are identical. They all close within 3 days of each other. Two of them are currently at around $10 and the one being sold by probstein is already at $30. The current high bidder has 400 bids this month and over 50% are with Probstein. Really, ebay!? Give me a break!!!

[Leon]

Have won things from Probstein recently and been happy. Also lost some but wasn't very unhappy. No doubt there is shilling going on on ebay but I am not sure the largest sellers can control it very well. Friends of friends and all.....

[xplainer]

Probstein sells tons of cards. Of course they can't "police" it all. That is their alibi.

All the ingredients are there for shilling to happen.

Probstein makes more $.
eBay makes more $.
The seller makes more $.
Buyer loses $.

Not that all are shilled, but this is the perfect business model for this stuff to happen.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by jimjim

Not like this is new news, but these auctions really get me mad with all of the shill bidding. I am watching 3 identical items on ebay. They are all PSA. I mean they are identical. They all close within 3 days of each other. Two of them are currently at around $10 and the one being sold by probstein is already at $30. The current high bidder has 400 bids this month and over 50% are with Probstein. Really, ebay!? Give me a break!!!

Then why don't you focus on the $10 cards and ignore the $30 cards? If more people did that, some of the smaller sellers might be more willing to auction off cards instead of seeing their items sell for peanuts. I know I fit into that category......just gets old seeing their SGC 3's sell for as much as my PSA 5's.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Then why don't you focus on the $10 cards and ignore the $30 cards? If more people did that, some of the smaller sellers might be more willing to auction off cards instead of seeing their items sell for peanuts. I know I fit into that category......just gets old seeing their SGC 3's sell for as much as my PSA 5's.

Put a great looking card up and do everything right and it won't go for peanuts. Too many people looking for great cards to let them go for nothing, imo....

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Leon

Put a great looking card up and do everything right and it won't go for peanuts. Too many people looking for great cards to let them go for nothing, imo....

+1

[bobbyw8469]

I can only go by experience.

[jimjim]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Then why don't you focus on the $10 cards and ignore the $30 cards? If more people did that, some of the smaller sellers might be more willing to auction off cards instead of seeing their items sell for peanuts. I know I fit into that category......just gets old seeing their SGC 3's sell for as much as my PSA 5's.

I do ignore Probstein items. Actually, I have never even bid on a Probstein auction. I refuse to do business with him. But that is just me. I just was doing a search and I came across this issue, which is why I posted.