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[GregMitch34]

Until recently, I tended to favor buying SGC cards--since the look is so important for me. But the pricing differential with PSA has only grown and so now I've given up. I will still buy SGC for pre-1900 cards and a few scattered others but otherwise it makes no sense at all, sorry to say. People argue here on and on about which company is stricter, or more fair, or has better service, etc., but it seems that the people have spoken--for whatever reason, they see PSA grades as far more credible, right or wrong.

Although always interesting to ask: exactly WHY?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Until recently, I tended to favor buying SGC cards--since the look is so important for me. But the pricing differential with PSA has only grown and so now I've given up. I will still buy SGC for pre-1900 cards and a few scattered others but otherwise it makes no sense at all, sorry to say. People argue here on and on about which company is stricter, or more fair, or has better service, etc., but it seems that the people have spoken--for whatever reason, they see PSA grades as far more credible, right or wrong.

Although always interesting to ask: exactly WHY?

Two reasons of many -
1-Because they advertise like crazy and have gotten much free hype in and out of the hobby.
2-Many people are sheep.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Two reasons of many -
1-Because they advertise like crazy and have gotten much free hype in and out of the hobby.
2-Many people are sheep.

Richard- What exactly are you saying?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Richard- What exactly are you saying?

Seems crystal clear!

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Seems crystal clear!

How so? Because PSA cards bring a premium over SGC??

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Seems crystal clear!

delete...beating a dead horse

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Richard- What exactly are you saying?

LOL.....this debate is almost as old as "what came first - the chicken or the egg". I'm speaking tongue in cheek of course, but....

The above poster is right. PSA advertises like crazy, and people are sheep. SGC does a very honorable job of grading cards and I love the way they look in the cases.

That being said, when it comes time to sell, they get NOWHERE near the prices of PSA. If someone is selling a card in SGC and they see it selling for a fraction of the PSA counterpart, of course they aren't going to want to sell any more SGC's. Now, if the SGC buyers would SUPPORT the .99 cent auctions on Ebay of SGC cards and help drive the prices up to even close of what the PSA cards are..........that hasn't happened so far though.

[iowadoc77]

I am a huge SGC fan...
As a COLLECTOR
I think the cards look much better in their holders.
As for premium pricing, I know it is not there for SGC but that doesn't bother me.
I have had 2 cards in PSA holders that I attempted to get crossed to SGC and they can back as trimmed. They were National Chicle football cards and no, I do not have scans. I feel the standards are strict at SGC except, of course, on centering. But that has been adequately discussed

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Two reasons of many -
1-Because they advertise like crazy and have gotten much free hype in and out of the hobby.
2-Many people are sheep.

Before I jumped into this hobby several years ago I did diligent research and read tons of threads on this board about SGC vs. PSA. I decided to go with SGC as they seemed to be the PRe-War favorite at the time. The first graded card I ever had was a Willie Mays and the PSA holder seemed flimsy. I bought strictly SGC cards until one day slipping up and purchasing a Nap Lajoie Portrait in a PSA case. It was love at first site. I have bought mostly PSA since and am seriouly considering moving my SGC cards to PSA holders for conformity. I still think that SGC is a better grader and their cases are rock solid, but are bulky, heavy and take up a lot more space than the PSA cards. Space is finite at my house with three boys and another child on the way. I choose PSA for more practical purposes and find both companies to be very good at what they do. I have had good experiences with both and wouldnt balk at buying a SGC card if it was the right card.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Pilot172000

Before I jumped into this hobby several years ago I did diligent research and read tons of threads on this board about SGC vs. PSA. I decided to go with SGC as they seemed to be the PRe-War favorite at the time. The first graded card I ever had was a Willie Mays and the PSA holder seemed flimsy. I bought strictly SGC cards until one day slipping up and purchasing a Nap Lajoie Portrait in a PSA case. It was love at first site. I have bought mostly PSA since and am seriouly considering moving my SGC cards to PSA holders for conformity. I still think that SGC is a better grader and their cases are rock solid, but are bulky, heavy and take up a lot more space than the PSA cards. Space is finite at my house with three boys and another child on the way. I choose PSA for more practical purposes and find both companies to be very good at what they do. I have had good experiences with both and wouldnt balk at buying a SGC card if it was the right card.

So it stands to reason that you would buy a PSA if it wasnt the right card...

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

So it stands to reason that you would buy a PSA if it wasnt the right card...

That's false logic. Saying that I would do one thing does not imply I would do another. I would buy an SGC graded card if it was the right card, meaning that if it was what I was looking for or a good value. You can always send it to PSA to have it graded there if you want the uniformity.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Until recently, I tended to favor buying SGC cards--since the look is so important for me. But the pricing differential with PSA has only grown and so now I've given up. I will still buy SGC for pre-1900 cards and a few scattered others but otherwise it makes no sense at all, sorry to say. People argue here on and on about which company is stricter, or more fair, or has better service, etc., but it seems that the people have spoken--for whatever reason, they see PSA grades as far more credible, right or wrong.

Although always interesting to ask: exactly WHY?

I havent seen a 'set break' auction on ebay with 95% of the cards being SGC in a long time post war...probably not even prewar either but i dont follow that end as much...it seems every week PWCC has a 'set break' PSA auction..

IF SGC would fo been the one to grade those Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb backs that could of helped them with their prewar niche everyone argues with me about when i say PSA is the way to go