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Old 01-07-2016, 09:26 PM
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I believe Ebay allows up to 45 day to request a refund and Paypal is up to 180 days. If the buyer files a not as described claim there is a 99% chance he will win. It is one of the many flaws with how Ebay works. Having "no returns" in your description doesn't mean anything. I hope it works out for you but be prepared to issue a refund.
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Old 01-07-2016, 09:47 PM
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Ebay will side with the buyer. Guaranteed...the buyer can do no wrong in ebay's eyes. Not only that, but they will also make you pay return shipping. So not only did this guy probably switch cards on you, he did it completely on your dime.
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This is why I do not sell on EBay.

Sorry Pete...
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Old 01-07-2016, 10:04 PM
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I do not sell at this point, but think I would like to someday and I worry about things like that. years ago, I sold for a shop and a few odd things of my own and it seemed like I always attracted a flake in every batch I sold, but it was mostly low end stuff and my issues seemed to be a lot of non-paying bidders. In the past, as a buyer, I was scammed a few times with bait/switch and non-receipt and it really pisses you off.

However, I want to believe that even though these types of situations really sting and stick in your mind, that they are the small minority of transactions.
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I have sold on EBay and 98% no bad issues. But then something rears up (usually buyer's remorse) and it's a major pain. Then again, sure people do the same thing at card shows.
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I have sold on EBay and 98% no bad issues. But then something rears up (usually buyer's remorse) and it's a major pain. Then again, sure people do the same thing at card shows.
I agree 100%
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Old 01-08-2016, 01:45 PM
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I quit feebay around 2003. It was profitable but time consuming and the exasperation of situations like this made it not worth my time. It is my understanding that it has only gotten worse in the last 12 or so years.
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Sorry to hear that Pete.
I sold a Topps Black Chrome Lebron James PSA 10 like 2 years ago. About 48 days after the auction had ended the guy requests to send the card back. I called ebay and they said he claimed that he sent the card to BGS to have it cross. Obviously if it went into a BGS10 card would be $$$$. BGS sent it back supposedly saying card was shaved on upper border.
Had to refund him his $850. Wish i had that card now lol
ebay sucks if you are selling stuff and the buyer is not an honest or resonable person.
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i kinda figured I had no recourse...still waiting to hear back from buyer. and I assume if I refuse to pay ebay would boot me over $50 right?!
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Old 01-08-2016, 02:21 AM
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Ebay is not the demon many people make them out to be. The deck is not automatically stacked against sellers. A buyer once filed a claim against me, but I gave ebay a persuasive defense, and ebay could see the messages that passed between the buyer and me. Ebay ended up refunding the guy's money out of their own pocket (though they didn't remove the buyer's negative feedback )
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It's a rigged game, but it's the best game out there. I do not sell high value items on ebay, but it's great for midrange items. It can also be very good for just plain odd stuff
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Default It is tough on the buyers as well....

Just received my first PSA submission back, 4 of the 15 cards were not graded. All purchased from three separate "reputable" e-bay sellers. Two of the sellers have not returned multiple messages.

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Old 01-08-2016, 09:01 AM
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i kinda figured I had no recourse...still waiting to hear back from buyer. and I assume if I refuse to pay ebay would boot me over $50 right?!
I don't think it's a matter of refusing - they will likely debit your account directly linked to eBay or Paypal upon receipt of the buyer sending everything back.

I sell on eBay quite a bit but hate selling lots like that one for fear of that happening. It's just annoying. I'd fight it, even though your case will be a hard one. You never know who will be on the receiving end and consider it. Also, if they have had other issues with that buyer and returns, that may help you. Plus, even if you lose you'll get some (if not all) of the collection back since the buyer will have to show it was sent back and received by you before getting a refund (I think).

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The buyer will have to send it back for your inspection ! If you say they are not the cards you sent and /or some are missing . You win
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This is why I do not sell on EBay.

Sorry Pete...
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Ebay will side with the buyer. Guaranteed...the buyer can do no wrong in ebay's eyes. Not only that, but they will also make you pay return shipping. So not only did this guy probably switch cards on you, he did it completely on your dime.
Sadly, this is true. Your best way around these problems is to do bending-over exercises each morning.
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