Values on the rise for pre-war?

[BBB]

That 1986 Sandberg brings up this old question...

Could certain card pops be low simply b/c no one thinks they are worth submitting? Won't the market get flooded after a sale like this w/ folks submitting theirs to try and cash in on the trend and cause the values to come crashing back down to reality? I probably donated cards like this because they were not worth the cardboard they were printed on. Could someone interested in playing the odds simply submit a couple hundred top condition value-less star cards for a few thousand and then sell 2 or 3 of those hundreds of cards for $1,000s and toss the rest in the garbage? Could it be that simple?

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by BBB

That 1986 Sandberg brings up this old question...

Could certain card pops be low simply b/c no one thinks they are worth submitting? Won't the market get flooded after a sale like this w/ folks submitting theirs to try and cash in on the trend and cause the values to come crashing back down to reality? I probably donated cards like this because they were not worth the cardboard they were printed on. Could someone interested in playing the odds simply submit a couple hundred top condition value-less star cards for a few thousand and then sell 2 or 3 of those hundreds of cards for $1,000s and toss the rest in the garbage? Could it be that simple?

Not that I ever think they will be worth money, but I know there are a lot less 1989 Topps Traded commons than there are cards of Griffey because there was a person that broke up thousands of sets and graded all the Griffey cards. He sold some of the other stars in huge groups and trashed the commons. I'm sure other people have done the same, though I doubt they did it in the bulk that he did.

[Jdoggs]

Eddie Plank T206 prices are on the rise from recent sales in all grades. The T206 Plank has a population almost as low as the T206 Wagner. People are realizing the plank is an undervalued card as plank is an all time great hall of fame pitcher.

[glynparson]

no way is 118 copies even remotely close to 10% of the population. i don't even think its close to 5%.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by glynparson

no way is 118 copies even remotely close to 10% of the population. i don't even think its close to 5%.

5% would mean there are 2360 copies out there of a card that is only found in the 150 series. That number is too high considering most people believe the easy to find commons numbers between 2000-3000. 10% would mean there are 1180 out there which is probably not close either, but I said "somewhere between" those two numbers because I didn't want to guess 6.2% or 7.1%, so I just ballparked it. I would guess it's actually between 6-7% to put in a better estimate.

[SMPEP]

I see stuff like $2,400+ for a 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg ... and it makes me wonder what is wrong with this hobby.

You're telling me that a card that can be bought in NM (or better) condition every single day on Ebay for $1 (plus what whatever for shipping) is worth and additional $2,400 because it is entombed in a plastic case saying it is a 10? Seriously? I get the four corners look better under a microscope, but you think you should pay a premium for that? You can't think of anything better to spend $2,400 on?

Everyday I wonder how I can be involved in a hobby where people are willing to spend their money like that.
Patrick

[Sean]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

I see stuff like $2,400+ for a 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg ... and it makes me wonder what is wrong with this hobby.

You're telling me that a card that can be bought in NM (or better) condition every single day on Ebay for $1 (plus what whatever for shipping) is worth and additional $2,400 because it is entombed in a plastic case saying it is a 10? Seriously? I get the four corners look better under a microscope, but you think you should pay a premium for that? You can't think of anything better to spend $2,400 on?

Everyday I wonder how I can be involved in a hobby where people are willing to spend their money like that.
Patrick

Patrick, just take the same approach that I take: don't spend your money on 1986 Topps cards, and make fun of those who do.
Then I can spend it on a T206 with a printing flaw instead.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

I see stuff like $2,400+ for a 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg ... and it makes me wonder what is wrong with this hobby.

You're telling me that a card that can be bought in NM (or better) condition every single day on Ebay for $1 (plus what whatever for shipping) is worth and additional $2,400 because it is entombed in a plastic case saying it is a 10? Seriously? I get the four corners look better under a microscope, but you think you should pay a premium for that? You can't think of anything better to spend $2,400 on?

Everyday I wonder how I can be involved in a hobby where people are willing to spend their money like that.
Patrick

its still good for the hobby that the psa 10s are going for big money....gets people involved..some may then buy psa 9s etc.....never a bad thing for people to pay big money on cards.....as $1 cards are still there for us to be happy with.....economy is doing well I guess...

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

I see stuff like $2,400+ for a 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg ... and it makes me wonder what is wrong with this hobby.

You're telling me that a card that can be bought in NM (or better) condition every single day on Ebay for $1 (plus what whatever for shipping) is worth and additional $2,400 because it is entombed in a plastic case saying it is a 10? Seriously? I get the four corners look better under a microscope, but you think you should pay a premium for that? You can't think of anything better to spend $2,400 on?

Everyday I wonder how I can be involved in a hobby where people are willing to spend their money like that.
Patrick

Patrick, there have always been and will always be stupid, greedy people out there. If they ceased to exist I wouldn't have a job...Just remember that almost 50% of the American public is of below average intelligence, and they are allowed to vote, own guns, drive and procreate. And buy cards. Think of it this way: every time one of these fellows gets it in his mullet-topped head to open his fanny pack and spend the ciggie money on a PSA 10 card from the overjuiced, overproduced era, he is not putting his hand into the prewar cookie jar. We all can sit back and smirk at him and his 200# heifer-wife as they waddle down the aisle at the National in their jorts, but at least they aren't pissing in the prewar bidders pool.