does paper loss always psa1/sgc10

[esd10]

thats a nice e97 with a small amount of paper loss but i use to remember if you had any paper loss it was a sgc 10 or psa 1

[markf31]

Originally Posted by esd10

thats a nice e97 with a small amount of paper loss but i use to remember if you had any paper loss it was a sgc 10 or psa 1

As far as I can remember paper loss, also referred to as a surface tear, has always been able to achieve a grade from SGC of Good 30 (2) as long as the rest of the card's characteristics were good. And in some cases a grade as high as VG/EX 50 4 could be achieved if it was a small and very minor surface tear. If the paper loss is present along with other detractors then the grade gets lowered accordingly.

It is all detailed if you read through their Grading Scale
http://www.sgccard.com/grading_scale.htm

[GregMitch34]

Still, I have to ask, do people treat an SGC 30, with minor paper loss, as a true 30--or do they discount because of it?

[RUSH2112]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Still, I have to ask, do people treat an SGC 30, with minor paper loss, as a true 30--or do they discount because of it?

Everyone is different when it comes to appeal of a card. An SGC30 card with a small amount of paperloss is acceptable to most collectors. The fact it has been graded SGC30 means it has already been discounted. Someone may not buy it because they consider paperloss a major defect. For others, paperloss is no big deal on a SGC30 card.

SGC are always accurate and fair in my opinion. Personally, I collect ungraded cards and grade them to oldschool, Charelton standards.

PSA seems to have made it's own rules when it comes to grading. For example, a card that is miscut or off-center can receive a NM-MT grade as long as "MC" of "OC" is written on the slab. Denoting MC or OC on the slab doesn't make the card better. Makes the slab more appealing but not the card.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by RUSH2112

PSA seems to have made it's own rules when it comes to grading. For example, a card that is miscut or off-center can receive a NM-MT grade as long as "MC" of "OC" is written on the slab. Denoting MC or OC on the slab doesn't make the card better. Makes the slab more appealing but not the card.

why shouldn't a mint card with a factory miscut be graded MINTmc? or mk for some kind of writing? easier for me than trying to figure out why that EX-looking card is graded an sgc 20...erased writing or pinhole i'm not seeing maybe? of course half the time PSA couldn't even see the marking...

[Howe’s Hunter]

http://tinyurl.com/87nxa5p

Someone has a card I want, and I've made an offer. They show this one, listed as a BIN for quite some time, as a card with paper loss worth a lot more than I am offering. I keep pointing out no one is buying, but that point hasn't sunk in yet.

[CMIZ5290]

Totally agree with chad. Give me a t206 psa 8oc versus a psa 6 with corner wear any day of the week...... unless of course it's trimmed, right dan?

[RUSH2112]

Originally Posted by StuckInOmaha

http://tinyurl.com/87nxa5p

Someone has a card I want, and I've made an offer. They show this one, listed as a BIN for quite some time, as a card with paper loss worth a lot more than I am offering. I keep pointing out no one is buying, but that point hasn't sunk in yet.

You are being more than fair and don't buy it. The seller is asking VG price for a G+ card. VG-EX cards in PSA3 holders do exhist. The card below is in minimum 4 or 4.5 condition but was graded PSA3. I would put this card in an EX set anytime.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by StuckInOmaha

http://tinyurl.com/87nxa5p

Someone has a card I want, and I've made an offer. They show this one, listed as a BIN for quite some time, as a card with paper loss worth a lot more than I am offering. I keep pointing out no one is buying, but that point hasn't sunk in yet.

ed--maybe he knows of ur plight and thinks sooner or later you'll cave.